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I would agree, I tried Ideals saipan, shamo, and malay and was not happy. Once I acquired the real deal, or as pure as I could find, I saw its night and day. The hatchery is a good start to get to know the gameness (I say this because they aren't really game but they kinda act like it) and to...

Wanted to show some young birds I ordered from ideal. Saipan, malay, and shamo. They are right about eight weeks old. Let me know what you guys think or if they aren't that hot ;)