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Quote: I still do not buy that percentage. I think it may be regional- perhaps in some areas, that is true, but not over the entire United States. I just will never believe that. When those numbers keep coming up, I think it makes some people lax about biosecurity-after all, why bother if you...

If NPIP testing included the Mycoplasmas it would be very expensive. Not only that, but since 75 - 95% of all flocks test positive, what would they do about it? Kill 75 - 95% of all chickens? After doing some research on the deadly and dangerous diseases they do test for, I have a renewed...

Quote: Where do you shop? I usually see it for between $15. and $20.

Quote: Oh, what a great idea. I wonder if that would be a possibility? I guess we could check with Nifty (Rob) and see.

Quote: I read it differently than you do, I guess. I look at it this way .... they are ALL exposed. Some react (get sick) and others have a resistance. It makes no sense to me to keep (or treat) a sick bird to breed. Why keep a sick bird around? Even if they do survive (treated or not), I...

Quote: I was told that many of the microorganisms of these dreaded diseases can live for days in YOUR (humans) nose or your ear, etc. Go somewhere and sneeze ....... and you have passed it on. Scary thought, isn't it? I have learned, by reading and researching, that many of these diseases...

Thank you all for your advise and opinions. This has been very educational.

Quote: This is the procedure the Marans breeders are using now, the monthly Tylosin. Which is exactly why Im breeding my own birds and not getting any outside sources for now. My egg color may suffer for a while, but I refuse to be a slave to this type procedure. Wait a minute ..... are you...

Quote: No, you're missing an important point. When they get sick they're not allowed to "recover or die", they're culled. Even if they were to recover they'd still be genetically predisposed to the particular disease. Obviously other birds in the flock would also have been exposed to the...

Quote: I agree also. I would not keep a sick bird period. Injury is different, but no sick birds .... resistance or not, I do NOT want sick birds! I will, however, treat for worms, cocci, and parasites. I don't see these as diseases or weaknesses to cull for. I am still learning, and I...

Quote: UGGGG .... I always hated Microbiology.

Quote: Really? I did not know this. I am still learning. I thought Coryza was just another respiratory disease like the others I have heard of. I do bleach my waterers weekly, but not always my feeders. Maybe I better start doing that to my feeders, too. Actually, I use Oxine, not bleach.

Quote: Resistance does mean the bird gets sick, doesn't die from the sickness, & pass on the genes that they carry, that made them survive in the first place... Quote: Immediate culling from the flock of those that aren't sick, is just artificial selection .... yes, I agree. So, that isn't...

Quote: What about the Mycoplasma diseases? MG and MS? Do they have vaccines for those? I hear that 70% of flocks tested have these.

Quote: Yes, I understand that part (kill the sick ones). The part I don't understand is the ones that do not get sick .... are they carriers or resistant (because they have obviously been exposed, right?)? In my way of looking at it - they could be either. I don't vaccinate because I have...

Quote: Resistance does mean the bird gets sick, doesn't die from the sickness, & pass on the genes that they carry, that made them survive in the first place... THAT was my original thinking, too, and why I ask about this! I am really enjoying this thread and all the opinions. Thanks to you all!

Quote: SO, by going to a show or the feed store .... everyone is at risk. Go to the feed store, then sell chicks you hatched a couple weeks prior, and not knowingly you have sold potentially sick chicks. Correct? This is sooooooo confusing to me. Resistance or immunization, such a tough...

Quote: Yes, I understand that part (kill the sick ones). The part I don't understand is the ones that do not get sick .... are they carriers or resistant (because they have obviously been exposed, right?)?

Quote: But, it seems you would be vaccinating and revaccinating all the time, right? I just think it would sure take tons of time to do all this. I worry all the time, though. I worry some big outbreak will come along and kill all my birds. I just don't know which way to go .... to...

Quote: Well, my question on this is .... wouldn't that be breeding for resistance? Say, for instance, the seller (in the BYC auctions) did have some illness and killed all the sick ones. Wouldn't the others be considered "resistant?" See, this is the part I don't understand. Possibly, Kathy...