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  1. shortgrass

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    Ugh! Absolutely; and yet another reason to get OMRI approved ammendments for soil... That's deceptively irritating that we USE feather meal (from ours, of course lol) in addition to bonemeal, bloodmeal, etc... TONS of byproduct in organic farming. That kind of deception is how those chemicals...
  2. shortgrass

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    Ah, gotcha! :) An excellent site that I would HIGHLY recommend that anyone wanting to dust, sprinkle, dose, or force feed ANY unknown substance, to check it first and make 100% INFORMED decisions about if they would be eating this bird and if they wouldn't mind eating the meds, as well ;) And...
  3. shortgrass

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    Oh, @JanetMarie, that was sarcasm... I DO understand what its for, etc... I was simply stating how I don't understand WHY people assume they know better than the FDA, or why a person wouldn't wonder what they're actually doing other than sticking a known harmful substance into what I really...
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    I don't understand why a product that's banned for poultry use would be somehow a "green light" to go ahead and give it to them anyway....? I think it's clear WHY the FDA is taking these meds back to prescription use; I think they need to continue and get them ALL. That's just irresponsible...
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    Absolutely! Not everything is preventable, but at least TRYING has to count! We've had closed herd practices for pretty much my whole life, and just showing livestock when I was young opened up a door to pathogens that I am NOT ready to repeat, now that my kids are 4H age... 4H, oh boy, plague...
  6. shortgrass

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    I play with botanicals and microbes to help in that effect, I suppose... Cinnamon extract is known antiviral antifungal, etc... And certain beneficial bacteria can actually aid in eliminating others, but without knowing what us what, the same applies as with antibiotics. There are millions of...
  7. shortgrass

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    Wow, now THAT should be yet another incentive no not "vet" our birds ourselves... With that many choices of antibiotics, we need to know exactly what we're dealing with, or we run the risk of tossing 20 or so antibiotics to the wind... Looks like e.coli wouldn't stand a chance, but I could...
  8. shortgrass

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    Glad we have a vet on board!  Welcome! Chicken people have not used vets much for a couple of reasons. A.)  Vets don't see the investment in boning up on poultry paying off (unless as stated they have personal interest) so most don't see poultry and/or really know how to treat them. B.)  It's...
  9. shortgrass

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    Here's why I don't do antibiotics. http://chriskresser.com/the-high-price-of-antibiotic-use-can-our-guts-ever-fully-recover/ I ferment. I treasure all those magical microbes that protect me and help me from the soil up. I don't kill them, I grow more! :D Ever notice how yucky you feel after a...
  10. shortgrass

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    In pets, I would be forced to agree with you,..with exception ;) I don't immunize anything except m kids and pets. Pets, we are talking cat and dog. Calves get 2 immunizations to prevent certain high mortality bovine pathogens. The dogs get a parvo and rabies vaccination, and cats get distemper...
  11. shortgrass

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    Great article, Kathy, thanks! We don't use hormones on our cattle, for numerous reasons... Well, if you know me...lol you know why ;) It's about the "Benjamin's"... Money, profit, get them fat in the feedlot and hormones increase muscle mass without letting the carcass get toouch fat. Keeps...
  12. shortgrass

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    Actually Kathy, growth hormones and steroid use us alarmingly prevalent in the beef industry... NOT ME!!!! :P But beef for SURE use steroids, not only legally, but the dairy industry almost went down the tubes because if it. I'd post links, but at the moment, hands full with ornery kids ;)
  13. shortgrass

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    True, I can see where for a person who has a small flock for pet/egg/meat, it could cause frustration trying to find assistance. I'm blessed with not just one, but 3 great vets that not only specialize in cattle, but one is very good with birds. If I need necropsies irctests, CSU is not too far...
  14. shortgrass

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    I personally ally applaud the FDA for this. Too many uneducated people just tossing antibiotics and wormers out there with NO idea what they actually are or the effect its having overall. I disagree that all poultry need wormers and antibiotics. Mine get ZERO of either, and have never had need...
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