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  1. varidgerunner

    Historic Presence of Jungle Fowl in the American Deep South

    My Thai games prefer snow to water as well. Must be all that snow in Thailand. Or possibly it is just the result of chickens being hardwired for wild traits as a result of being naturally selected while in captivity. Didn't the Clarets come from Canada? Or was that another breed I remember.
  2. varidgerunner

    Historic Presence of Jungle Fowl in the American Deep South

    The thing that gamefowl and junglefowl have in common is that they are selected by nature and not humans. Hen picks a bad spot for a nest and gets eaten, she doesn't reproduce. Cock isn't better than the next cock, he doesn't reproduce. I have seen gamefowl that have been raised and selected by...
  3. varidgerunner

    Historic Presence of Jungle Fowl in the American Deep South

    Good selective breeding would deter owl predation, providing the chickens had ample cover to pick from when selecting roosts. Only the birds dumb enough to set out in the open should fall prey to owls. The smart ones will tuck into vines and branches that prevent attack.
  4. varidgerunner

    Historic Presence of Jungle Fowl in the American Deep South

    I have read things that indicate that this is a secret of gamefowl keepers of old, a trick for regulating size in a line. If a line got too heavy weight wise, they would select fall hatched pullets to breed to. For the reasons you mention, they don't get as big. The smaller the pullet, the...
  5. varidgerunner

    Historic Presence of Jungle Fowl in the American Deep South

    This is a random internet picture that shows a good example of a spanish game. They historically weighed from 2 and 3/4 pounds to 3 and 3/4 pounds, a little smaller than American/English gamefowl.
  6. varidgerunner

    Historic Presence of Jungle Fowl in the American Deep South

    "Gameness" has nothing much to do with the desire to fight. Leghorns fight. It has more to do with the desire to keep fighting even when losing. In the wild, two roosters facing off oblivious to an approaching hawk will not pass their genes. The nervous rooster that runs at the sound of a...
  7. varidgerunner

    Historic Presence of Jungle Fowl in the American Deep South

    Yes. At certain times of the year, with certain classes of birds. (Adult males.) Bachelor groups form in marginal habitat with sub-adult males. Females occupy the best habitat, and harem groups are guarded by one or more adult males that will fight any other adult male that challenges them. It...
  8. varidgerunner

    Historic Presence of Jungle Fowl in the American Deep South

    The feral gamefowl of Fitzgerald behave exactly as the feral gamefowl in many other places. Cuba, Hawaii, Florida. And the birds in those places aren't wild Red Jungle Fowl either.
  9. varidgerunner

    Historic Presence of Jungle Fowl in the American Deep South

    Wild Red Jungle Fowl would be just as prone to fight when it was mating season. That is if you got real ones, and not just the gamefowl bred to look like them that hatcheries offer. In fact gamefowl are no more likely to fight than any other chicken, they just do it younger, have shorter periods...
  10. varidgerunner

    Historic Presence of Jungle Fowl in the American Deep South

    Agree that the cuban and spanish gamefowl tend to be smaller. RJF coloration is the wild type and could easily dominate in a small population that wasn't getting fresh doses of genetics like most of the urban "breeds" that are just escaped games.
  11. varidgerunner

    Historic Presence of Jungle Fowl in the American Deep South

    Gameness can disappear quickly in a wild setting. If you get locked into a pecking order dispute with enough intensity to not notice approaching predators, you aren't going to pass your genes. The fligthy cowardly guy that runs and hides at the first sound of disturbance is going to do quite...
  12. varidgerunner

    Historic Presence of Jungle Fowl in the American Deep South

    The RJF traits are strong in American Games. It is still common practice in Southeast Asia to cross the RJF into game birds, as it has been for a very long time, undoubtedly when game birds were obtained from Phoenician traders in Rome and spread throughout the Roman Empire, obtained by Spanish...
  13. varidgerunner

    Historic Presence of Jungle Fowl in the American Deep South

    If you are getting jungle fowl from a hatchery, feel assured that their heritage is plenty mixed. I have read articles about the wild read jungle fowl in Asia, and how they were mostly diluted with domestic chicken in the wild populations. Some of the American wild birds were actually purer from...
  14. varidgerunner

    Historic Presence of Jungle Fowl in the American Deep South

    Wild Red Jungle fowl were never raised as farm stock in the US. They were stocked by South Carolina Fish and Game as a game animal, an idea that never quite took off, but the chickens remain in an isolated population. Gamefowl, (bankivoid gamefowl) have had recent (in last 400 years)...
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