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Good, listen to your elders... Semi elders, whatever hahaha
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Good job side-stepping that.
 
Jacob Study...... comments appreciated.............several chapters (38-41) in Genesis were skipped because "Jacob" was not mentioned

Genesis 42 New American Standard Bible (NASB)
Joseph’s Brothers Sent to Egypt

42 Now Jacob saw that there was grain in Egypt, and Jacob said to his sons, “Why are you staring at one another?” 2 He said, “Behold, I have heard that there is grain in Egypt; go down there and buy some for us from that place, so that we may live and not die.” 3 Then ten brothers of Joseph went down to buy grain from Egypt. 4 But Jacob did not send Joseph’s brother Benjamin with his brothers, for he said, “I am afraid that harm may befall him.” 5 So the sons of Israel came to buy grain among those who were coming, for the famine was in the land of Canaan also.
6 Now Joseph was the ruler over the land; he was the one who sold to all the people of the land. And Joseph’s brothers came and bowed down to him with their faces to the ground. 7 When Joseph saw his brothers he recognized them, but he disguised himself to them and spoke to them harshly. And he said to them, “Where have you come from?” And they said, “From the land of Canaan, to buy food.”
8 But Joseph had recognized his brothers, although they did not recognize him. 9 Joseph remembered the dreams which he had about them, and said to them, “You are spies; you have come to look at the undefended parts of our land.” 10 Then they said to him, “No, my lord, but your servants have come to buy food. 11 We are all sons of one man; we are honest men, your servants are not spies.” 12 Yet he said to them, “No, but you have come to look at the undefended parts of our land!” 13 But they said, “Your servants are twelve brothers in all, the sons of one man in the land of Canaan; and behold, the youngest is with our father today, and one is no longer alive.” 14 Joseph said to them, “It is as I said to you, you are spies; 15 by this you will be tested: by the life of Pharaoh, you shall not go from this place unless your youngest brother comes here! 16 Send one of you that he may get your brother, while you remain confined, that your words may be tested, whether there is truth in you. But if not, by the life of Pharaoh, surely you are spies.” 17 So he put them all together in prison for three days.
18 Now Joseph said to them on the third day, “Do this and live, for I fear God: 19 if you are honest men, let one of your brothers be confined in your prison; but as for the rest of you, go, carry grain for the famine of your households, 20 and bring your youngest brother to me, so your words may be verified, and you will not die.” And they did so. 21 Then they said to one another, “Truly we are guilty concerning our brother, because we saw the distress of his soul when he pleaded with us, yet we would not listen; therefore this distress has come upon us.” 22 Reuben answered them, saying, “Did I not tell you, ‘Do not sin against the boy’; and you would not listen? Now comes the reckoning for his blood.” 23 They did not know, however, that Joseph understood, for there was an interpreter between them. 24 He turned away from them and wept. But when he returned to them and spoke to them, he took Simeon from them and bound him before their eyes. 25 Then Joseph gave orders to fill their bags with grain and to restore every man’s money in his sack, and to give them provisions for the journey. And thus it was done for them.
26 So they loaded their donkeys with their grain and departed from there. 27 As one of them opened his sack to give his donkey fodder at the lodging place, he saw his money; and behold, it was in the mouth of his sack. 28 Then he said to his brothers, “My money has been returned, and behold, it is even in my sack.” And their hearts sank, and they turned trembling to one another, saying, “What is this that God has done to us?”
Simeon Is Held Hostage

29 When they came to their father Jacob in the land of Canaan, they told him all that had happened to them, saying, 30 “The man, the lord of the land, spoke harshly with us, and took us for spies of the country. 31 But we said to him, ‘We are honest men; we are not spies. 32 We are twelve brothers, sons of our father; one is no longer alive, and the youngest is with our father today in the land of Canaan.’ 33 The man, the lord of the land, said to us, ‘By this I will know that you are honest men: leave one of your brothers with me and take grain for the famine of your households, and go. 34 But bring your youngest brother to me that I may know that you are not spies, but honest men. I will give your brother to you, and you may trade in the land.’”
35 Now it came about as they were emptying their sacks, that behold, every man’s bundle of money was in his sack; and when they and their father saw their bundles of money, they were dismayed. 36 Their father Jacob said to them, “You have bereaved me of my children: Joseph is no more, and Simeon is no more, and you would take Benjamin; all these things are against me.” 37 Then Reuben spoke to his father, saying, “You may put my two sons to death if I do not bring him back to you; put him in my care, and I will return him to you.” 38 But Jacob said, “My son shall not go down with you; for his brother is dead, and he alone is left. If harm should befall him on the journey you are taking, then you will bring my gray hair down to Sheol in sorrow.”
 
SG, if you don't take the time to take care of you, how can you take care of others?
If you don't take time to breathe. To stay calm. To focus. You can't keep away from the cigarettes that any smoker knows will ease the stress.
Take up yoga!! Even kids like doing it.
 
lazy gardener said:
[COLOR=0000FF]Yeah, that was Jesus.  Righteous anger.  [/COLOR]

[COLOR=0000FF]Wow, this passage is loaded.  First:  The attitude of Joseph.  does it seem to the reader that Joseph was perhaps a bit boastful of his favored position with his Dad????  He alone had a special cloak, one of a kind.  None of his older brothers were so blessed.  He got to stay home with Dad while the rest of the brothers went out to tend the flocks.  Seems they were traveling far and wide to secure grazing for the animals.  It wasn't a cake walk.  Mean while... Joseph gets to stay home.   The dreams:  sounds like he's perhaps rubbing those dreams in his brother's faces....  Even his dreams place him in a favored position over his brothers AND his parents.  His telling of these dreams evoke further jealousy and resentment from his brothers, and a rebuke from Daddy.  So... the brothers plot to kill him.  Reuben intervenes, hoping to return and rescue him.  But, the brothers then sell him.  Note the 20 pieces of silver.  The purchase price of a slave.  Note the parallel:  Joseph was sold or betrayed for 20 pieces of silver.  Jesus was betrayed for 20 pieces of silver.  Jacob was sent to Egypt.  This set the stage for saving the rest of his family (from whom the 12 tribes would rise) from certain death.  It brought them into Egypt.  Note an other parallel:  Jacob became the source of salvation for his family.  Egypt:  Jesus came out of Egypt, as eventually did the nation of Israel.[/COLOR]

[COLOR=0000FF]Further food for thought:  Joseph's attitude in this passage?  Boastful?  A bit arrogant?  Prideful?  Compare it in future reading to his attitude as God works in him under his captivity. ( When he is reunited with his family)  [/COLOR]

[COLOR=0000FF]I don't see that as doomsday at all.  What it does point out is that to both Jew and Gentile, the law shows our need for a savior.  Because, not one of us can keep any of the law, whether it's the law of the Jews, or the laws written on our own hearts.  As Paul says, "What I know I should do, I don't do, and what  I don't want to do, I do."  I know in my heart the difference between right and wrong.  And, yet how often do I stumble?  How often can I not even keep my own law of right and wrong that is written in my heart?  How often can I follow my own conscience?  Even if I only attempt to obey what my own conscience tells me to do, I fail.  Pure and simple, it is sin, and all of us sin.  What is the definition of sin?  It is an archery term.  It means, "missing the target".  Just as I can not shoot an arrow accurately to hit the moon, I can also not hit God's target of living a sinless life.  God's standard is perfection.  I can not meet it.  I miss that target.  And if I miss it once, I have not met his standard.  I fall short.  Romans 3:23  For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God.  I need a savior, someone to bridge the gap between my sinfullness, and a perfect God. [/COLOR]

[COLOR=0000FF]That is an awesome passage!  [/COLOR]

[COLOR=0000FF]I believe it was because Moses allowed disobedience to the law of circumcision within his own household.  Moses was allowing his wife to rule the roost in this regard.   Check out this article:  https://www.gotquestions.org/Zipporah-in-the-Bible.html[/COLOR]

[COLOR=0000FF]SG.  Will lift you up in prayer.  You are fighting a very difficult battle.  Know this.  It will get easier.  One day at a time, one hour and minute at a time.  Do what it takes to get through one hour and one day at a time.  May Got touch you and give you strength.  May he remove the cravings from you this hour and this day.  In the precious name of Jesus, we all pray for you.  [/COLOR]

[COLOR=0000FF]See my post above and the article for reference.  [/COLOR]
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