Rooster beat up by his sons?

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cnboscia said:
Bruce was rescued from a gamecock breeder who got busted for fighting roosters. Bruce himself hadn't ever been fought, he was too young. My husband is familiar with how these birds are, I am not. I did not realize how soon they would go after each other. My younger chickens/roosters are just now 9 months old. We first separated the younger chickens from the older because the younger ones were eating the eggs, then we stopped letting them share yards because the older hens started to be mean to the younger, but when there were out roaming free they just went their own ways. My husband said he should have told me that they were too old to go out together anymore when I told him about the flooding, but didn't think about it at the time. Bruce was already dubbed when we got him, my husband knows how to make a tie cord(which anyone can learn from YouTube, but he was familiar with it because of his upbringing), and why would my taking him to the vet be bad??? We loved that bird and I was trying to save him, my husband, myself, and my children are heartbroken because he was a really friendly rooster who followed my husband and children around like a puppy.
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takjng the bird to the vet isn't a bad thing i suppose if you can't handle it yourself. The point was that everyone knew it was a gamecock. You learned that they aren't trained to fight. It's what they do. In your original post imo should have read my gamecock got into it with some younger stags/roosters. The only point I was making was the fact that you knew from the get go it was a gamecock. i guess now you realize you didn't rescue that bird from anything. Have a good day.
 
Eggcessive said:
I'm glad that you rescued them, and he is a handsome rooster. This was a learning experience, and I think that you have done well. It is good that Centrarchid and others have given some help. You have also explained very clearly that you don't have fighting roosters, and hopefully no one else will assume that is the case.
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OH yes she does have fighting roosters. And u can't hug it out of them weather to admit it or not
 
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I hug a lot of my fighting chickens and trees, so there. In this case, the rooster in question was not rescued, it is more similar to going from frying pan into the fire. This outcome could have been realized with pure Brown Leghorns although odds with games much higher. The term rescue when involving animals more often than not gives me a queezy feeling, especially game fowl. If the chickens are kept in a free-range setting in social groups where the gameness attribute does not result in serious injury or death and the birds live a long healthy life, then yes a rescue. When birds are terminated for being what they are or kept in a manner where uncontrolled fighting occurs, then most definitely not a rescue. A point I will make is the game fowl generally live better better lives than typical backyard chickens and certainly do better than commercial birds used for eggs and meat which age out of life before games are even fully mature. This takes into account that male game fowl do die fighting.


Keeping game fowl can be challenging and is in my opinion rather expensive.
 
Note image below paying particular attention to Bruce's right leg. Look at that spur. Based on spur size, he is at least three years old. Also note end has been cut off. Either the spur tip was cut off indicating he a couple years older than three or it was cut more than three years back when he was at least 2 years old so the stump could support something metal than can not be discussed here. That bird in my opinion was at least 5 years old when the picture was taken. An old geezer for a backyard rooster but nothing special for a game rooster.

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Closeup of spur on right leg.
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For me it is fun to pick images apart looking to learn about what is pictured. Sometimes what is gleaned can fill gaps not evident from what has been reported.
 
I think you've done what you should have. If you didn't know you know now and we all make mistakes. We learn from our mistakes. They say that game roosters will always fight at some point in life because they are born to fight. I disagree for some roosters. I know someone who had a game rooster and thought he would fight the others but he lived and took care of them like they were his own and he was the mother. He had no problem and never fought. You did a great job with what you knew and I'm sure we would have done all we could if it were ours. Take great care and good luck with the others.
 
We had never cut his spurs. He barely had freaky stubs before we got him and unfortunately we only had him a year. He also just finished his first molt. You like to "pick apart" pictures and believe your assumptions are true. And yes I made a mistake and it cost a good pet his life. That doesn't mean he wasn't rescued from a worst fate. I'm sure you have never made a mistake in your time raising chickens. I made this post because I was looking for help, period. Yes I'm an amateur, but everyone starts somewhere. And trust me, no regrets my mistake more than me.
 
I think I need to make something clear. I'm not looking for praise or pat on the back and a "you did the best you could do" pity party. I know now that I should have made myself more aware of the nature of my roosters. We have never fought, sold for fighting, or bread for profit any of our birds. The only reason this tread got on this topic is because I tried to defend against accusations of doing those things. Thank you to all of you who have offered advice and education to help me be a better chicken/ rooster owner. That's what I came here for.
 
cnboscia said:
We had never cut his spurs. He barely had freaky stubs before we got him and unfortunately we only had him a year. He also just finished his first molt. You like to "pick apart" pictures and believe your assumptions are true. And yes I made a mistake and it cost a good pet his life. That doesn't mean he wasn't rescued from a worst fate. I'm sure you have never made a mistake in your time raising chickens. I made this post because I was looking for help, period. Yes I'm an amateur, but everyone starts somewhere. And trust me, no regrets my mistake more than me.
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I think original owner did it. He / she would have done it when bird at least three years old. Process sometimes repeated with birds as they age. It is possible the previous owner did not know what they were doing and did not cut the spur short enough.
 

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