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I ordered 12 RIR pullets from Ideal in June. I got all pullets, no complaint there, but I don't think they are RIR's. 9 of the girls have gray saddle feathers, and the others are red through out. I am not looking for show quality birds, I just want to make sure I got what I ordered. Do these look like Buckeyes instead of Reds?
http://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/uploads/34755_red_red.jpg
this is a red. The color is consistant throughout.


http://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/uploads/34755_reds_006.jpg
this is one of the girls in question with the gray saddle feathers

The color of the Buckeye is darker than that of the original Rhode Island Red (later, the Rhode Island Red was bred for a shade of color even darker than the Buckeye). The Buckeye also has a slate colored bar in the undercolor (fluff) of its back; the Rhode Island Reds feathers should be red to the skin. Both breeds share the trait of tight feathering unique in the American Class of poultry.


This quote is why I think they are Buckeyes.


Edited by popcornpuppy - 8/4/09 at 4:48pm
It started with one dog. A Golden Retriever.  Now we have six Golden's and Popcorn is our pride and joy. Next, we got chickens, then bunnies. Now we have a crazy number of chickens that is growing by the day and includes Heritage RIR'S, Delawares and BBS Orps.
http://whatcamefirstfarm.farming.officelive.com/default.aspx http://delawarepoultryclub.org/index.html
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It started with one dog. A Golden Retriever.  Now we have six Golden's and Popcorn is our pride and joy. Next, we got chickens, then bunnies. Now we have a crazy number of chickens that is growing by the day and includes Heritage RIR'S, Delawares and BBS Orps.
http://whatcamefirstfarm.farming.officelive.com/default.aspx http://delawarepoultryclub.org/index.html
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I forgot to ask...is it common for certain breeds of chickens to get mixed up by hatcheries? Especially if they are very similar in appearance?


Edited by popcornpuppy - 8/4/09 at 1:18am
It started with one dog. A Golden Retriever.  Now we have six Golden's and Popcorn is our pride and joy. Next, we got chickens, then bunnies. Now we have a crazy number of chickens that is growing by the day and includes Heritage RIR'S, Delawares and BBS Orps.
http://whatcamefirstfarm.farming.officelive.com/default.aspx http://delawarepoultryclub.org/index.html
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It started with one dog. A Golden Retriever.  Now we have six Golden's and Popcorn is our pride and joy. Next, we got chickens, then bunnies. Now we have a crazy number of chickens that is growing by the day and includes Heritage RIR'S, Delawares and BBS Orps.
http://whatcamefirstfarm.farming.officelive.com/default.aspx http://delawarepoultryclub.org/index.html
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post #3 of 10

IDK about the breed thing, but if they're Buckeyes like mine - they are hilarious birds overflowing with personality. I like my Buckeyes more than I thought I would. If they are, you will really enjoy them - feisty, but fun. I am waiting (im)patiently for eggs. They have a pretty brown egg.
I hope someone can answer your question for you. Either way, they are pretty birds you've got there.

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post #4 of 10

I'd go for a full body picture, from what i've seen they have a big difference in appearance and from a hatchery you couldn't go off  feathers.. Just my opinion.

ETA: You ordered Rhode island reds so that is probably.. Sort of.. What you got, you mention they have gray feathers, in the first picture it looks like some white.. Hatcheries sell Production reds. Which are generally Rhode island crosses (crossed with new hampshire, and sometimes with a little leghorn in the bunch)... Im not sure what the under color of a new hampshire is though.. But like i said, coming from a hatchery you can't go off that.


Edited by DTchickens - 8/4/09 at 4:38am

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Fourth generation poultry breeder focusing on Kraienköppe- the breed that won my heart and replaced all others on my farm.
http://www.freewebs.com/dtsfowl/

 

Interested in poultry showing? Live in Mississippi or a nearby state? Check out the Mississippi Poultry Show Club

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post #5 of 10

What kind of combs do they have?  Buckeyes  should have pea combs...RIR either straight or rose.

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I'm a Farmer/Rancher  Wife,Mom & Grandma  No Farms, No food. 
If you want house chickens and ducks in diapers then this is the forum for you.
I've got 50+ years of poultry experience, but this 'poultry' forum isn't for me anymore.
If you're going to complain about farmers, don't do it with a full belly or a mouthful.
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I would say that the ones with the Gray/ Slate undercolor are Buckeyes.
The standard calls for the undercolor of the Buckeye to be: Red, except for back which should show a bar of slate. The Buckeye should have a Pea Comb (like a Bramha or a Easter Egger)
The bird with the Red/ buff undercolor could be a hatchery Rhode Island Red or a production red.
Chris

 

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NPIP # 31-516
Society for the Preservation of Poultry Antiquities http://sppa.webs.com/

Breeding Large Fowl Single and Rose Comb Rhode Island Reds to APA Standard


"I know of no pursuit in which more real and important services can be rendered to any country than by improving its agriculture, its breed of useful animals, and other branches of a husbandman's cares." – 

George Washington

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post #7 of 10
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Here is a full view.
The girls all have single combs. I know that Buckeyes usually have pea combs but it is not unheard of for them to have a single comb sometimes. I am thinking they are a mix or hybrid with buckeyes.
http://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/uploads/34755_fuzzy_red_head.jpg

It started with one dog. A Golden Retriever.  Now we have six Golden's and Popcorn is our pride and joy. Next, we got chickens, then bunnies. Now we have a crazy number of chickens that is growing by the day and includes Heritage RIR'S, Delawares and BBS Orps.
http://whatcamefirstfarm.farming.officelive.com/default.aspx http://delawarepoultryclub.org/index.html
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It started with one dog. A Golden Retriever.  Now we have six Golden's and Popcorn is our pride and joy. Next, we got chickens, then bunnies. Now we have a crazy number of chickens that is growing by the day and includes Heritage RIR'S, Delawares and BBS Orps.
http://whatcamefirstfarm.farming.officelive.com/default.aspx http://delawarepoultryclub.org/index.html
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post #8 of 10

She looks just like my RIR girls when they were about 10 weeks old. Mine came from Murray McMurray. After reading this I will have to check the feathers out on mine tomorrow. But they do look exactly like my RIR.

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post #9 of 10

Your birds are Production RIR.They can vary in tipe and feathers.They are smoler but very good lears.

post #10 of 10

I agree with ve...with the straight combs and varied colorings I think you've got production RIRs.

I'm a Farmer/Rancher  Wife,Mom & Grandma  No Farms, No food. 
If you want house chickens and ducks in diapers then this is the forum for you.
I've got 50+ years of poultry experience, but this 'poultry' forum isn't for me anymore.
If you're going to complain about farmers, don't do it with a full belly or a mouthful.
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I'm a Farmer/Rancher  Wife,Mom & Grandma  No Farms, No food. 
If you want house chickens and ducks in diapers then this is the forum for you.
I've got 50+ years of poultry experience, but this 'poultry' forum isn't for me anymore.
If you're going to complain about farmers, don't do it with a full belly or a mouthful.
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