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What is the difference between black orpingtons and black australorps?

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I bought 5 young black hens from a couple about a month ago.  I thought they were black australorps (the couple did not know--they bought them as chicks in a bantam bin--they are not bantams by the way--at Tractor Supply).  I was planning to breed them to a young australorp roo that I have.  I was looking at breeds in the breeds index on BYC and noticed that there is also a black orpington that looks, to me, identical to the black australorp.  How can I tell the difference?  I just want to know because I don't want to breed them and sell the chicks as something that they might not be.  I have these chickens mixed with several other breeds in my hen house, but I think that they are laying a medium-sized (they just started laying about the time that I bought them) light-brown egg.  The eggs might even be considered beige in color--nowhere near as dark as the RIR eggs. 

Thanks so much.

post #2 of 17

black orpingtons have more plumage if im spelling that right lol and they are fatter looking there feathers just give them a hefty look about them and black australorps they dont have that huge look they are more sleek the feathers are more put together than a black orpingtons is.

a picture would be good too also breeding them would not give you a show quality breed so when selling the chicks just say a great duel purpose bird.


Edited by chickenbottom - 12/8/09 at 8:28am
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post #3 of 17
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Thanks for the information.  It is raining right now where I live.  When it clears up, I'll try to snap a photo and post it.

post #4 of 17

i googled these
this one is the black australorp i found the puffiest one
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3140/2603371687_c068b9bfc2.jpg
black orpington again on google
http://www.self-sufficient-life.com/Keeping_Chickens/BlackOrpingtonChicken.jpg
and no problem byc is for questions and answers


Edited by chickenbottom - 12/8/09 at 8:37am
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post #5 of 17
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Also, chickenbottom and for whomever else, I forgot to mention that the hens I have have a beautiful bluish-green sheen to their feathers which I thought was a typical trait of australorps.  However, the description you gave makes my hens sound like black orpingtons.  Mine are really hefty-looking birds.

Thanks.

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Originally Posted by madornato 

Also, chickenbottom and for whomever else, I forgot to mention that the hens I have have a beautiful bluish-green sheen to their feathers which I thought was a typical trait of australorps.  However, the description you gave makes my hens sound like black orpingtons.  Mine are really hefty-looking birds.

Thanks.


any black bird can have a sheen to them my black australorp does and so does my black ameraucana.

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post #7 of 17
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Chickenbottom, I was typing another post while you were downloading pics off google.  Thanks for that.  My birds look more like the top picture--black australorp.  Mine do not look nearly as puffy as the one in the bottom picture, so might it be safe to say I have black australorps?  I'll post a pic of mine later if I can to confirm. 

Thanks.

post #8 of 17

it probably is a black australorp they are more common than black orpintons

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post #9 of 17

I don't know of any hatcheries that sell any color of Orpington but Buff so I would say it is very safe to say you have Australorps. I do understand your questioning though. I have seen many a black Orp that had more type like a Jersey Giant or Lorp.  Here is a hen that is four years old that I still have . she came from Sandhill.  She has really good Orp type/
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y250/KeenerB/Orpingtons/044.jpg


Edited by BamaChicken - 12/8/09 at 9:00am
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Originally Posted by BamaChicken 

I don't know of any hatcheries that sell any color of Orpington but Buff so I would say it is very safe to say you have Australorps. I do understand your questioning though. I have seen many a black Orp that had more type like a Jersey Giant or Lorp.


ya thats what i was thinking too  ive never seen a black orp from a hatchery

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