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post #21 of 29
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Hi

At the moment try to position the eggs with the blunt end tilted upwards and please do post pictures if you have any.  The following link to an incubation article may help you further;

http://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=491013


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post #22 of 29

Wow! THat article is awesome! I am half-way through and will finish reading today. As far as positioning them blunt-end up, what is the best way to do that? I have no racks or anything. Would an egg-carton work? Although, they wouldn't be tilted much, it would be more like straight up and down. When you have them blunt-up tilted up, how do you turn them? Just rocking them back and forth? I really wish that I did my research ahead of time and started them off in the right position! I will get some pics today to show the worst ones. Thank you for your help!

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post #23 of 29

Ok, so I found something to keep them in to get them at a better angle, blunt end tipped up about 30 degrees or so. Had to keep an eye on the temperature because the eggs are sitting higher in the incubator now. Keep having to reduce the temp because it gets over 100 at the top of the eggs.
I candled them tonight so that I could make a good outline of the air cell. All 12 eggs have some amount of displacement to one degree or another. These are some of the worst ones. Forgive the picture quality! There are 2 pics of each egg. All of the babies are active.
First one (two conjoined, one on the end, one along a side):
http://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/uploads/114568_egg1b.jpg
http://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/uploads/114568_egg1a.jpg
Second one (wrap-around):
http://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/uploads/114568_egg2b.jpg
http://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/uploads/114568_egg2a.jpg
Third one (very large air cell):
http://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/uploads/114568_egg3b.jpg
http://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/uploads/114568_egg3a.jpg

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post #24 of 29

Today was day 20.

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post #25 of 29
Thread Starter 

Hi

The best you can hope for now is to maintain stable conditions and keep up your turning programme.  You can raise the blunt end of the eggs with a wedge of cotton wool or gauze etc which will promote the ducklings to settle into the correct hatching position. You've done all you can and now its just waiting until pipping time so try not to be over anxious.

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post #26 of 29

For the ones with the big air pocket on the side, and on the blunt end, how should I position them for 'lock-down'? flat, or tilted? Should I have all the eggs tilted? I have maybe 2 or 3 that have air cells that did not get disturbed. Another problem is that some of the ones that got disturbed have huge air cells, taking up 1/3 to 1/2 of the egg, but the ones not disturbed are still quite small. Not sure how to deal with humidity. Getting to the end here, so not sure how much I can do anyways!
Thank you for your help!

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Ducks are 1 buff duck, 3 Khaki Campbells, and 12 eggs in the incubator!!

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post #27 of 29

Pete,

Good news! Of the 12 eggs that I was incubating (most of which had some amount of air cell problems), 11 hatched!! The only one that did not hatch (but was fully developed in the shell) was the second set of pictures I posted. The only one that needed a bit of assistance during the hatch was the first egg pictured.

 

Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge!

Becky

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post #28 of 29
Thread Starter 

Hi Backy

 

Thats great news and thanks for letting us know. A lesson in maintaining stable incubation conditions and allowing mother nature to take its course.  Just shows that these eggs with air cell damage are well worth trying and especially so with rare breeds.

 

Once again well done and congratulations.

 

Pete

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post #29 of 29

I have 4 Chinese goose eggs that I got shipped to me.  All the air cells were detached and a mess.  I let them sit upright for about 8 hours to get room tempurature and then put them in the incubator upright and left them for 48 hours without moving them.  I then candled again and the cells were still terrible.  Hatch day is February 17 and this is what the eggs look like when I candle them now.  I am not sure what I need to do.  The babies are all moving around put the air cells are dipping more and more and the babies are still in the middle to the top of the egg.  My humidity is ar around 67% and temp is at 99.0 degrees.  I have the eggs at about a 35 to 45 degree angle.  What do I need to do to make sure I can get my babies to hatch?  I hope you can make sense of my pics.  They are the actual eggs that I traced the cells on as of today.

 

Goose egg 1.jpg

 

egg 1.jpg

 

egg 1 side.jpg

 

another egg

 

IMG_20120203_140139.jpg

 

IMG_20120203_140132.jpg

 

IMG_20120203_140126.jpg

 

One more

 

egg 2.jpg

 

egg 3.jpg

 

 

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