Marans - SOP discussion thread

[math ace]

It's a very interesting read and makes sense to me. He also does a head measurement, especially on cocks to be used for breeding. Now being a man of his times he relates it to the study of the skull and whether certain features of the skull marked a more intelligent person. So the first two times I read the book my eyes sort of glazed over on that part. However, I have some buff plymouth rocks and have been hanging over on that breed thread. It's pointed out many times there to select birds with good depth of head. So maybe Hogan wasn't too weird there afterall.

Here is another benefit to selecting males with a good depth of head.... to breed away from a crows head.

 

[maryhysong]

They don't call it the Hogan test here, but that is what they are doing in this video

 

[marquisella]

I have a question....how much white in an ear lobe is too much?

I understand that "all white " earlobes are a fault.

Is a "frosting of white" on a red earlobe just as bad? Or is it acceptable?

 

[DMRippy]

I have a question....how much white in an ear lobe is too much?

I understand that "all white " earlobes are a fault.

Is a "frosting of white" on a red earlobe just as bad? Or is it acceptable?

Let me find it I asked that too and NYREDS answered me.

https://www.backyardchickens.com/t/685915/white-in-ear-lobes-dq

Positive White Enamel like in a Leghorn.

 

[Zanna]

I have a question....how much white in an ear lobe is too much?

I understand that "all white " earlobes are a fault.

Is a "frosting of white" on a red earlobe just as bad? Or is it acceptable?

I believe it is "pearl white" that is bad (not sure if Fault or DQ) and that a frosting of white on a laying hen/pullet is acceptable but I could be wrong............ Anyone else?

 

[Zanna]

Let me find it I asked that too and NYREDS answered me.

https://www.backyardchickens.com/t/685915/white-in-ear-lobes-dq

Thanks Donna, I remembered that one!

 

[gilavina]

White earlobes are DQ as per the Marans Standard.
Positive Enamel White as defined in the SOP refers to permanent white in face or ear lobes where red is required. A disqualification in some breeds. The term is not intended to include paleness of ear lobes due to poor condition, nor any slight white appearance which lacks the satin-like characteristic of the ear lobe of rosecomb bantams.

 

[marquisella]

White earlobes are DQ as per the Marans Standard.
Positive Enamel White as defined in the SOP refers to permanent white in face or ear lobes where red is required. A disqualification in some breeds. The term is not intended to include paleness of ear lobes due to poor condition, nor any slight white appearance which lacks the satin-like characteristic of the ear lobe of rosecomb bantams.

OK, is there is pic of "positive enamel white"? I'm still not sure, I have a roo with what looks like dust on his ear lobes...but the actual earlob is red.

 

[gilavina]

OK, is there is pic of "positive enamel white"? I'm still not sure, I have a roo with what looks like dust on his ear lobes...but the actual earlob is red.

it is any form of white, even the dusting of it. the only differentiation is white or pale. Pale is not a DQ, any white is when it comes to a bird that is supposed to have a fully red earlobe. Having said that, I do know that some people will use those with a dusting to test mate, its a gamble tho as it can show up at any point.

 

[DMRippy]

Quote:
Once you see POSITIVE WHITE ENAMEL you can't miss it.

http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=rosecomb+bantams&qpvt=rosecomb+bantams&FORM=IGRE

http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=Brown+leghorn&qs=n&form=QBIR&pq=brown+leghorn&sc=8-13&sp=-1&sk=

I think it has a sheen almost.... like something painted pearl.....