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Welsummer or Partridge rock?

post #1 of 15
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Anyone have any ideas on how to tell the difference between a Welsummer pullet and a Partridge Rock pullet?  My chicks are a little over a month old, and I am having problems telling the 2 breeds apart.  It was no problems when they were smaller, but since they are feathering in... idunno

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post #2 of 15

Do you have any pictures?  The pullets would be really easy to tell apart as Partridge Rock pullets are penciled, welsummers are not.  The cockerels you can tell by hackle feathering (and saddle feathering after about 13 weeks)  Welsummers have a copper colored hackle/saddle feathers.  Partridge rocks are more burgandy.

Here's some welsummer pictures if it helps you.  These pictures were taken at 5-6 weeks.

Pullet front, cockerel rear:
http://i822.photobucket.com/albums/zz145/new2chooks/IMG_2174.jpg

Pullets:
http://i822.photobucket.com/albums/zz145/new2chooks/IMG_2193.jpg
http://i822.photobucket.com/albums/zz145/new2chooks/IMG_1962.jpg

Cockerel:
http://i822.photobucket.com/albums/zz145/new2chooks/IMG_2170.jpg

This girl is older, but it shows the distinctive coloring of the welsummer pullet chest:
http://i822.photobucket.com/albums/zz145/new2chooks/SAM_0367.jpg

http://i822.photobucket.com/albums/zz145/new2chooks/IMG_3400.jpg

If you want pictures of adults, just let me know.

Here's a link that shows pictures of Partridge Rocks:
http://www.feathersite.com/Poultry/CGP/Rocks/BRKRocks.html

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Breeding Welsummers and Barnevelders.

 

Having an Icelandic in the coop is like having a 2 year old in the house - they are into everything and don't follow the rules.

I have zero chicken willpower.

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post #3 of 15

Here's my rooster (at 6 months old) to show you the hackle/saddle feather colors.
http://i822.photobucket.com/albums/zz145/new2chooks/10225.jpg

Breeding Welsummers and Barnevelders.

 

Having an Icelandic in the coop is like having a 2 year old in the house - they are into everything and don't follow the rules.

I have zero chicken willpower.

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Breeding Welsummers and Barnevelders.

 

Having an Icelandic in the coop is like having a 2 year old in the house - they are into everything and don't follow the rules.

I have zero chicken willpower.

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post #4 of 15
Thread Starter 

Thanks for the info and pictures.  I think it will help out alot!   I will try and get some pictures taken and posted as soon as I can.  Thanks again. smile

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post #5 of 15

If it has white earlobes, you have a Brown Leghorn.

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post #6 of 15
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Ok, I'm still confused.  I thought I had them figured out(with the help of your pictures. Thanks).  But now I'm not so sure.  I have certain ones that I am sure are Partridge Rocks, but they have the grey/greenish feet and legs.  I only ordered Welsummers, and Partridge rocks, so I know that unless the hatchery made a mistake, I'm not sure what they are.  Has anyone ever seen Partridge Rocks with the dark(grey/black) legs???  I am going to go down to the house and take a picture so you experts lol  can get help me get this figured out.

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post #7 of 15

Black, slate colored legs, well, they are not certainly Partridge Rocks or Welsummers for sure!

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post #8 of 15
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Well here are the pictures... any suggestions??? hmm  These ladies on the roost, I thought were both Partridge rocks.  Now not sure, if you say that there is no way that Welsummers or Partridge Rocks can have slate colored legs. If you look at them, they both look like the same breed, sorta (whatever that is!) but they have different colored legs. I also added the last picture of one of my Welsummers to show that I do know which ones they are...tongue

http://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/uploads/2089_partridge_rocks_010.jpg

http://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/uploads/2089_partridge_rocks_011.jpg

http://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/uploads/2089_partridge_rocks_012.jpg

http://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/uploads/2089_partridge_rocks_014.jpg

Welsummer:
http://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/uploads/2089_partridge_rocks_007.jpg

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post #9 of 15

The lacing, barred pattern on that slate legged girl is definately a crossbred, not sure exactly what it is. May have to wait to see what color of egg she will lay. She did not have much of a salmon breast either.

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post #10 of 15

Maybe they sent you a free chick with your order?

BTW Japanese,mille fleur Jap project,  corturnix quail, some red chickens I got at TSC, one EE and 2 EE chicks, and some really poor pyncheons, 10 ducks and 2 welsh harlequin ducklings,  one pheasant hen, one pheasant chick, one MFC chick, 2 Norwegian Jaerhon chicks.
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BTW Japanese,mille fleur Jap project,  corturnix quail, some red chickens I got at TSC, one EE and 2 EE chicks, and some really poor pyncheons, 10 ducks and 2 welsh harlequin ducklings,  one pheasant hen, one pheasant chick, one MFC chick, 2 Norwegian Jaerhon chicks.
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