QUESTION: About Predators...

Same here. I made my coop out of recycled fence. So to predator proof it, I completely lined it in hardware cloth, on the floor, walls and ceiling. I don't want rats chewing through it. Conventional wisdom says, the coop has to be tight enough, that nothing larger than a hotdog can squeeze through. That means1/2 inch hardware cloth that is secured with screws (not staples), tight doors, and complex latches. There also has to be ventilation, enough room, shade, storage, poop management (wire floors don't work) and it has to look good (neighbors). There is a lot to it and it takes time and thought.

Some people have a knack for this and they build beautiful safe and comfortable coops in a couple weekends for next to nothing (It blows my mind!). It takes months for most of us amateurs. It took me 5 months of steady work on days off and a weeks vacation to build mine. I think I was slower than most. I had many do-overs and re-thinks, but it got done. I think mine cost $500+, and I did not buy wood or paint. I did buy hardware cloth, latches, hinges, screws, washers, fence poles, cattle fence panels, fence fittings, hog rings, cinder blocks, stakes, metal roof, sun-tuff roof, feeders, waterers, etc. It all costs. And it's just for 3 chickens. It's insane.

Now I'm fooling with heat and a broody hen. I had my broody in a rabbit hutch in the run with her food in a cage cup. This morning there were ants in her food. So I suspended the whole cage up off the floor ~ 18 inches. I had to tie it in so it won't rock back and forth. I have to make sure it is shaded and position it so she can sit in the fan wind or get out of the wind if she wants. Yesterday I had the mister going and went out to check, it got turned around and she could not get out of it and was soaked. Scared me to death. I made her free range (she wants to sit on her nest) for a while to dry off and she seems fine today.

Moral of the story. Chickens are expensive, they are work and a lot of responsibility and worry. I feel like anything bad that happens to them is my fault. Whether it's the weather, dogs (doesn't matter who they belong to), coons, cats, rats, mice, mites or ants.

I like being outside and I like taking care of them, but I'm always a little worried about them. They are so vulnerable to everything.

Sorry I got a little carried away here.
 
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Same here. I made my coop out of recycled fence. So to predator proof it, I completely lined it in hardware cloth, on the floor, walls and ceiling. I don't want rats chewing through it. Conventional wisdom says, the coop has to be tight enough, that nothing larger than a hotdog can squeeze through. That means1/2 inch hardware cloth that is secured with screws (not staples), tight doors, and complex latches. There also has to be ventilation, enough room, shade, storage, poop management (wire floors don't work) and it has to look good (neighbors). There is a lot to it and it takes time and thought.

Some people have a knack for this and they build beautiful safe and comfortable coops in a couple weekends for next to nothing (It blows my mind!). It takes months for most of us amateurs. It took me 5 months of steady work on days off and a weeks vacation to build mine. I think I was slower than most. I had many do-overs and re-thinks, but it got done. I think mine cost $500+, and I did not buy wood or paint. I did buy hardware cloth, latches, hinges, screws, washers, fence poles, cattle fence panels, fence fittings, hog rings, cinder blocks, stakes, metal roof, sun-tuff roof, feeders, waterers, etc. It all costs. And it's just for 3 chickens. It's insane.

Now I'm fooling with heat and a broody hen. I had my broody in a rabbit hutch in the run with her food in a cage cup. This morning there were ants in her food. So I suspended the whole cage up off the floor ~ 18 inches. I had to tie it in so it won't rock back and forth. I have to make sure it is shaded and position it so she can sit in the fan wind or get out of the wind if she wants. Yesterday I had the mister going and went out to check, it got turned around and she could not get out of it and was soaked. Scared me to death. I made her free range (she wants to sit on her nest) for a while to dry off and she seems fine today.

Moral of the story. Chickens are expensive, they are work and a lot of responsibility and worry. I feel like anything bad that happens to them is my fault. Whether it's the weather, dogs (doesn't matter who they belong to), coons, cats, rats, mice, mites or ants.

I like being outside and I like taking care of them, but I'm always a little worried about them. They are so vulnerable to everything.

Sorry I got a little carried away here.


Not carried away! I love it.. Detailed response! I agree with you and it sounds like you care beyond!

I just finished my coop. I put stuff on top of stuff... on top of stuff. I was so nervous. Ha. My girls are free rangers all day but at night, they are obviously locked in their little coop. I hope it holds up. I love my flock.
 
Lately-- we haven't had any issues. Our last attack was a coyote that got a nice RP turkey (free ranging) a couple months ago.
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Actually-- it was two coyotes working together. Anyway, I did want to post because someone I know recently had 12 chickens killed in 2 days from a single fox. She had a nice tall fence-- and she said the fox climbed the fence like a ladder-- quickly and was able to get to her birds that way. Has made me rethink what I'm doing out here. Going to build a top on my run in the back! I have seen fox around here too. Sounds like they are pretty agile and sneaky as they attack in the middle of the day when you aren't on guard.
 
I have had 5 chickens about 2 years and have lost only one bird recently. It was a new chick as I am adding to the flock. The predator was a black snake. I have build a nursery near the entrance to the house which is an overhang with lattice wood surround and bird netting over that. The bird netting is keeping the snakes out as they get tangled in it and can't move--thank God. I lost the one chick in a run with only chicken wire. That was sufficient as the older birds free range all day. I have hardwire to put up in the run later. So far there have been 4 snakes that we have caught and relocated.
Usually I depend on the dogs to keep other predators out but they have stayed inside because of the heat--pretty useless. Other than the dogs I do have fence of some sort around the property. I think I have just been lucky so far and the adult birds are about 7 lbs each so a hawk hasn't tried to get them. The chicks are at risk because of snakes, my cats and hawks. For that reason they are in the nursery when I am at home to check constantly or in the house.
 
I have seen fox around here too. Sounds like they are pretty agile and sneaky as they attack in the middle of the day when you aren't on guard.
I have had issues with a couple of fox this year too. However they are not afraid of anything it seems. DH has even been working in the pole barn with the big doors open, running power tools and such and they still came within 10 feet and attatcked a chicken. I have lost 4 so far and had three that managed to get away due to me or DH chasing the fox.
 
Ugh, our 7 week olds are out now. I've buried chicken wire a few inches into the ground, laid it out flat in front of that and secured them together, then laid leftover shingles around the edge of that.
We are deep litter mulching over bare ground, so I also sunk fencing below ground all around the perimeter of the coop, then up the sides a foot securing to the outer walls.
Not too paranoid am I?! I hope it's enough! We back up to woods and granite quarries.
 
I am about to pick up five Speckled Sussex pullets just feathered out, they will be my first chickens in 10 years and I am excited and terrified at the same time :) Dearly Beloved is helping me assemble the coop and run combo, which I paid too much for, but I am intent on having Speckled Sussex and they are available locally. I called one day and there were 30 available, and the next day there were 10 - someone purchased 20 at once. Given how late in the year it is already, I decided to pay up front for the five I want having seen them and affirmed their health and vigor, but now I have to get them home in the next two weeks.

The kit coop leaves much to be desired, but I believe it will serve its purpose for the time being. It is enclosed on all sides with 1/2" x 1/2" hardware cloth, sits right on the ground and has handles so it can be moved, which I want very much to be able to do. We are gone all day so they will only be allowed out weekend days when we are not going anywhere.

We have many predators locally, including fox, coyote, hawks, eagles, bull snakes and rattle snakes. The snakes are my main concern right now, as the kit does not have wire across the bottom, so I'm probably going to add 1/2" hardware cloth there before I pick up my little girls, and add better latches on exterior doors (clean-out door and nest box door).

Has anyone had experience with bull snakes and rattle snakes taking eggs or chicks?
 

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