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Thank you! I hope the hypericum helps, I'm so sorry you won't have chickens after these, I know you will miss having them. I do hope the ones you have will rally and give you joy for a long time yet. My sister-in-law has had trouble with Mareks in her flock, so she has been breeding her remaining hens with her two roosters, then will get another rooster to breed with those chicks so she can hopefully develop a resistance to the disease. They are out in the chicken yard in the brooder from day 2 so they are exposed to all the bacteria etc possible, and hopefully it will work. Her first batch is doing very well, now the second batch hatched yesterday. Guess we will see how it goes! Hope it works! She believes 'mutt' chickens will be healthier and less susceptible to disease. I love your chicken air conditioning idea, I will keep that in mind to help my girls through this summer.
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I think what the hypericum may do, if anything, is act as an analgesic. I want to believe it does more, but I am skeptical. Still I'm trying it because you never know.

I can't have birds for years as I only would get maybe six or even less. The virus stays active for a very long time. I don't think I would risk infecting other birds, going through this again, etc. I hope your sister is successful. She's probably right about the mutt chickens. That pretty much goes for lots of domesticated animals.
 
I agree, I've not heard many say they were happy with prefab coops. I've built all of mine but one, which came with 6 of my hens, and have made them good and sturdy, no falling apart! If there is any way you can build your own, do so. You will be glad you did!
On my big coop floor I use deep pine shavings, it works best for me. For the covered run, first it was just dirt, and I would rake and shovel it out frequently (it is very large), but it smelled bad. Then I used sand, and scooped it daily with a litter scoop. That's ok for my smallest coop, but was too labor intensive for the large covered run. Now I do deep litter in there with good hay from Tractor Supply. I clean it good, and put in a few bales, and the girls help me spread it. Every few weeks I add another bale or two, and it gets quite deep. There is only a smell when one has just dropped a cecal poop, which is easily taken care of. They get hours of entertainment from turning the straw and getting down into the sand to dust bathe.
My daughter and I performed surgery for bumblefoot on one of her hens, she had a huge one! (No avian vets anywhere near here) We had only noticed her limping for just a few days. Being in a run right outside her sliding glass door we can always see them. The surgery was traumatic and bloody, the hen tolerated it better than we did, and even though we were sure we got it all, soon it was back, this time poking through the top of her foot. We decided we were not doing that again, so started using straight Thieve's Oil on it, one drop every morning and night, top and bottom, and within 2 weeks it was gone! She has never had a recurrence, either. After all that, BumbleBea (guess where she got her name?) has become the sweetest, friendliest hen in her flock! I mixed my own Thieve's Oil, it is made from five essential oils that I got at a natural foods store. Clove 40 drops, Lemon 35 drops, Cinnamon 20 drops, Eucalyptus 15 drops, and Rosemary 10 drops. Drop all of them into a small dropper bottle, then use the dropper to put it on the bumblefoot. Research it on the web, there are many things it can be used for. It worked great for us.
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You mentioned your hens were not laying well. Mine go off laying when the summer heat hits about 90 degrees. They have a very well ventilated coop and run, but mine are only laying about half what they were a month ago. Stress of any sort can put them off laying. Loud noises, storms, change in feed, etc. I took away the rooster that was wearing out their backs and shoulders, but 3 of my silly hens started mounting the others
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. I'm having to isolate them one at a time to get them to stop! Grrrr! I'm thinking living with 3 'roosters' is enough to put any hen off laying!

Hope some of this is helpful, I've enjoyed reading your thread
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I've been meaning to tell you that I got some thieves oil and have been using it on my hen's bumble foot (actually, bumble feet). I soak her feet in epsom salts almost once a day, and twice a day scrub with betdine and then rub the thieves oil in. I've been using it for about a week and things are looking better. Thank you for the suggestion! It makes the coop smell lovely as well.
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On a less positive note, my vet believes my hens all have Marek's. My roo had lymphomas. Things do look like it all around. Put him down last week. Now I'm trying hypericum with the hens. who have been off food and laying for three weeks or so. They ate pretty well tonight. Don't really know what that means. I'll see how things progress.
 
I'm so happy the Thieves Oil is helping! We were amazed at how quickly BumbleBea got well, it's wonderful stuff! So sorry about your roo, I know that was hard! I've wondered if any of mine had Marek's, but without an interested vet, I didn't know what to do. If any of mine that died last year had it there was no way to confirm it, and I decided to just keep enjoying them and do my best to keep them healthy. If any more get sick I'll just deal with it the best I can. I'm reading up on chicken illness, bought several books on chickens and a Merck Manual for veterinarians. Let us know if the hypericum helps, I love using natural remedies! I do hope the rest of your flock will improve!
 
I'm so happy the Thieves Oil is helping! We were amazed at how quickly BumbleBea got well, it's wonderful stuff! So sorry about your roo, I know that was hard! I've wondered if any of mine had Marek's, but without an interested vet, I didn't know what to do. If any of mine that died last year had it there was no way to confirm it, and I decided to just keep enjoying them and do my best to keep them healthy. If any more get sick I'll just deal with it the best I can. I'm reading up on chicken illness, bought several books on chickens and a Merck Manual for veterinarians. Let us know if the hypericum helps, I love using natural remedies! I do hope the rest of your flock will improve!

Yes, the oil is pretty amazing. Her feet are looking much better. She didn't have a horrible case, by any means, but the bumbles were being persistent. Thanks again! You should share this remedy as a post on this site. It also makes the coop smell great!

Well, as far as the hypericum goes, I really don't know what to think. This is day four. They ate today and yesterday. Of course what they ate was all sorts of goodies mixed up with some crumbles, but they weren't even interested in goodies for the past weeks. Their energy seems better.

I don't believe that hypericum can cure Marek's. But, I am willing to consider that it is effective on nerve pain, which is probably the kind of pain a chicken who is infected has. What I want to believe is that it somehow drives the disease into remission. I'll see how they do and I'm talking with the vet again next week. I guess I'm not 100% sure that we even have Marek's. Perhaps it's something else, regardless of what the vet has concluded.

I hope your flock stays happy and healthy!
 

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