10 hens ate rat poison, started vitamin k

[gardenpirate]

A mouse nested in the chicken bedding and moved rat poison into its nest. Dear hubby spread the bedding in the coop yesterday and didn't notice it. I went out today and found a few bright green pellets and then green stool . I don't know how much total they got (I found a 50 gram package) or which hens ate it. The vet said give vitamin K1 everyday for 30 days, is there anything else I should do??? Of course I already cleaned out the coop and run and started the vitamin k. And obviously dispose of the eggs, but that's the least of my concern right now.

 

[Dee Dee 2]

Here are the plans for the BEST MOUSE TRAP ~ EVER. You will need ~~~~~
1. 5 gallon bucket. (plastic)
2. 1 small smooth rod. I used fiber glass fence post rods from T.S., the one that has no place to attach anything. A small wooden dowel would work. Smoother the better.
3. 1 small board at least 2" wide and about 21/2 - 3 feet long. Thin is good. I used a piece of lattes. You are making a ramp for the mice.
4. A tin can with both ends cut out or a small plastic bottle cut into a cylinder. If the can has a lip cut it off with a can opener. SMOOTH is the KEY here. Can prob. works best.
5. A drill and bit the exact same size as the rod and wire. (diameter)
6. Two pieces about 3 " of sturdy wire like bailing wire or 'mechanics' wire. A cotter pin would work also.
7. Two screws ~ small diameter, that will go through the board at least 1" ~ 2". Nail would work. I used SPAX screws. Brand name. I LOVE SPAX screws ! Great 'MADE IN U.S.' OR GERMANY PRODUCT. EXCEPTIONAL
8. 2 small plastic lids. Coffee can, cream cheese, cottage cheese, butter ~ what ever.
9. One jar of peanut butter. Cheap is okay. Mice do not seem to have a discriminating palate.
10. Plastic bag to put the peanut butter in . Snack size is good.
11. Hack saw and felt tip marker.
OKAY HERE WE GO.
A. DRILL A HOLE DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM EACH OTHER IN THE BUCKET ABOUT 1' FROM THE TOP LIP, EXACT SAME SIZE AS ROD. Just below where the lid snaps on is good. If you drill near the handle, it is a good straight across guide. REMEMBER ~ drill one side on the LEFT of handle one on the RIGHT of the handle.
B.INSERT ROD THROUGH HOLES, leaving about 1 1/2" ~ 2" each side. Mark where you will be cutting the extra length of rod off.
C. PUT A DOT ON THE ROD AT THE EDGE OF THE BUCKET(OUTSIDE EDGE) WHERE WIRE WILL GO THROUGH , BOTH SIDES.
D. REMOVE ROD, DRILL HOLES FOR WIRE AT DOT, THEN CUT OFF EXCESS ROD. Don't cut rod till you drill holes, gives you a little more to hold on to.
ASSEMBLY
A1.PUT ONE SMALL PIECE OF WIRE THROUGH ONE END OF ROD BEND INTO A "Z" TO KEEP IT FROM FALLING OUT. THEN THREAD ONE PLASTIC LID ON. You can just cut an X in center of lid, no need to drill.
B 2. PUT ONE END OF ROD THROUGH HOLE IN BUCKET, PUT CAN ON ROD. INSERT OTHER END OF ROD THOROUGH OTHER HOLE.
C 3. ADD OTHER LID ,INSERT WIRE THOROUGH LITTLE HOLE AND BEND WIRE.
D 4. DRILL SCREWS THROUGH BOARD ABOUT 2" -3" FROM END
E 5. SET RAMP ON BUCKET
F 6 .PUT ABOUT 1 TBS. PEANUT BUTTER IN CORNER OF PLASTIC BAG, CUT JUST THE VERY TIP OFF THE BAG.
G 7. SQUEEZE BAG MAKING 4 -5 BANDS OF PEANUT BUTTER AROUND CAN.
H 8. PUT IN A MOUSIE PLACE. BE AMAZED AT # OF MICE IN BUCKET THE NEXT A.M.
More is not better for bands of peanut butter. Thin is good.
The way it works is mice come up the ramp after the peanut butter. They jump onto the can which rolls on the dowel / rod and they fall into the bucket. Can't get out.
THERE ARE MANY WAYS TO DISPOSE OF THE MICE. MY PREFERENCE IS TO PUT A LID WITH A HOLE IN IT ON BUCKET, RUN A HOSE FROM THE EXHAUST ON MY CAR TO HOLE IN LID, RUN CAR FOR ABOUT 2-3 MIN. PUT DEAD MICE IN TRASH.
YOU CAN USE THIS TRAP IN PLACES, VACATION HOMES ETC., WHERE YOU WILL NOT BE GOING FOR A WHILE. IN THAT CASE PUT ABOUT 4" OF RV ANTIFREEZE IN BOTTOM OF BUCKET. PICKLES THE MICE. NO SMELL. DO NOT DO NOT DO NOT USE CAR ANTIFREEZE O N L Y RV ANTIFREEZE.
I caught 16 mice in 3 nights with this trap. If the peanut butter is gone in the a.m. but no mice you may have a RAT or giant roaches. I'm working on a rat trap. They are different critters.
I hate spring traps and refuse to use glue traps. I think glue traps should be ban and they can catch things you don't want caught. I am not opposed to killing a vermin but I think glue traps are horrible.
Happy mousing. Lemmeknow if I can be of assistance with any questions on trap plans. (^v^)

 

[ten chicks]

A mouse nested in the chicken bedding and moved rat poison into its nest. Dear hubby spread the bedding in the coop yesterday and didn't notice it. I went out today and found a few bright green pellets and then green stool

. I don't know how much total they got (I found a 50 gram package) or which hens ate it. The vet said give vitamin K1 everyday for 30 days, is there anything else I should do??? Of course I already cleaned out the coop and run and started the vitamin k. And obviously dispose of the eggs, but that's the least of my concern right now.

The only treatment i know of is Vitamin K1 for 30 days. Rat/mouse poisons work by preventing blood from clotting(blocks vitamin k1 in body)resulting in uncontrolled internal bleeding. Vitamin K1 is used to clot blood in the body.

Some symptoms in cats/dogs are: internal bleeding,lethargy,difficulty breathing,coughing,diarrhea(may or may not be blood),nose bleeds,bruising.

Symptoms may not show up from 3-5 days depending on which poison was used and how much was ingested.

 

[what did I do]

I had a dog get into some mouse poison. I weighed all all my options and how much poison I think he ate. I opted to watch and see but it didn't look like he ate very much. The dog never did have any problems but he never left my sight for days.
Vitamin k is it. Watch them close for any problems and act right away if you see any. If you know they ate it, give the vitamin k.

BTW, there are 2 different kinds of mouse bait. One bait will kill regardless of what you do. The other responds to vitamin k.

Something else, chickens will eat the mice and the mice can pass of the poison.

Get a cat.

 

[ten chicks]

I had a dog get into some mouse poison. I weighed all all my options and how much poison I think he ate. I opted to watch and see but it didn't look like he ate very much. The dog never did have any problems but he never left my sight for days.
Vitamin k is it. Watch them close for any problems and act right away if you see any. If you know they ate it, give the vitamin k.

BTW, there are 2 different kinds of mouse bait. One bait will kill regardless of what you do. The other responds to vitamin k.

Something else, chickens will eat the mice and the mice can pass of the poison.

Get a cat.

Not necessarily true,while they are stronger(possibly up to 200x)the same treatment applies. These poisons kill mice/rats fast(one dose)whereas the other type of poisons kills over time.

 

[gardenpirate]

Thanks, I am getting ready to go give them a second dose of the vitamin k. I think I am going to be scared everytime I go out until I know if its working or not :/. It was the long acting that they got too. Amy idea when the eggs will be safe? Usually we throw bad/broken ones into the field or compost, I am not sure what to do with all these now?

 

[ten chicks]

Thanks, I am getting ready to go give them a second dose of the vitamin k. I think I am going to be scared everytime I go out until I know if its working or not

. It was the long acting that they got too. Amy idea when the eggs will be safe? Usually we throw bad/broken ones into the field or compost, I am not sure what to do with all these now?

The long acting poison(anticoagulants)is similar to blood thinners and not as strong as the one dose. For the eggs i would discard/throw away for the 30 days,only b/c i do not have any information on safety of eggs while taking vitamin K1 for rat poisoning antidote,or that they may have ingested rat poison,err on the side of safety. Possibly your vet would know this answer.

Do you know the active ingredient in the poison you were using?

 

[Dee Dee 2]

I am sorry to hear about your incident with the mouse / rat poison. Sure hope your chicks all pull through .LATER TODAY I will send you and everyone else plans for THE WORLDS BEST MOUSE TRAP ! SAFE AROUND CHICKS, PETS, CHILDREN ETC. I caught 16 mice in 3 nights with this trap. Will not be able to send plans till this evening. Good luck with your chicks.

 

[ten chicks]

One of the safest ways to use rat/mouse poison is a bait station,keeps the poison locked inside. While i personally do not use poison(have too many pets that could possibly get into it)i have cats that patrol the property taking out the rodent population. I do understand the need to get rid of rodents as they can carry diseases/parasites and if i had to use a poison,it would be a bait station,kept under "lock and key".

 

[gardenpirate]

I agree! We didnt put it out (we use glue traps if we need). I think the previous owner of the property must have put it out. I cleaned out the shed that we now use for chicken supplies just for that reasone. It must have been under the shed and got drug out by some animal (coon or opossum or cat or something). Either that or a neighbor put it out, i am not sure wich.