12 Week Orpington Pullet???

Kenncarr

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Pullet or Cockerel?? I’ve been 100% sure this was a pullet, but now someone I gave the “sister” too is second guessing. So now I’m second guessing. 😂 what do you think about these two? Both 12-13 weeks old. I’m mostly looking at comb size and color because it’s so hard to sex by saddle feather shape with the lavender/shredder genes. Pic #3 is 100% cockerel for reference - approx. 12 weeks old and #4 is one of my hens - who does have a nice pronounced comb.
 

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I see some pointy saddle feathers starting in the first two pics so I would lean toward cockerel but I am not an expert. I have just been through this with a lavender Orpington though
 
Orpingtons have kind of showy combs so I don't go by that anymore...I look for thick shanks and pointy saddle feathers to match the comb. @Overo Mare @TheOddOneOut These people know better than me
Ah I see. I try not to look too much into the saddle and hackle feathers. Mine are a few generations in and definitely don’t have the smoothest feathers. Even my laying hens have some pointed, some smoother rounded feathers. Usually my cockerels have super red pronounced combs starting about 5 weeks old. These ones have color, but more tinted.
 

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