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Ok, well, let me rephrase it then... wouldn't it be great for the chickens, since they will (evidently) be shut into the coop at night, to have a PART OF THE COOP (since you don't want to call it a run
) that was basically open-air and sunshine, but just as well protected as the 'indoor' part of the coop.
I did not mean to start a thing about semantics
-- I just think that, unless one is inclined to just let the chickens go wherever they want whenever they want (i.e. they are NEVER shut in ANYwhere), it is awfully nice for them to have an outdoors part to enjoy til they're let loose, or when unexpected things arise.
Okay you win, I'll make a fenced in run.
Ok, well, let me rephrase it then... wouldn't it be great for the chickens, since they will (evidently) be shut into the coop at night, to have a PART OF THE COOP (since you don't want to call it a run

I did not mean to start a thing about semantics

In my ideal world I would also be able to hunt and trap all predators without being hand-tied by government watchdogs. You name it, they are fair game. There wouldn't be many around. My apologies to the ARsers, but there it is.
Sure, and in my ideal world I am lying on a beach in Fiji with handsome young men, all oiled and sun-tanned, fanning me and peeling me grapes and so forth. Well, plus the whole 'world peace, harmony with nature, no parking tickets, etc' type stuff
But even if you were allowed to trap and shoot whatever you wanted whenever you wanted, there would still be some predators that wandered in (predators, by their nature, have large ranges and roam quite a lot) and saw your chickens before you saw them. Also, more to the point in this partiuclar discussion, there will be days when a tree knocks your paddock fences flat, or your charger goes to the great junkpile in the sky, or you *know* you have a predator around that's taking your chickens but you just haven't gotten it yet . At times like those, it is *awfully* nice to be able to put animals somewhere really secure yet (as much as possible) comfortable for them.
This is why for horses, even if you have 100 acres of pasture and they live out 24/7, you still really ought to have a small very well-fenced paddock available
JMO,
Pat
Sure, and in my ideal world I am lying on a beach in Fiji with handsome young men, all oiled and sun-tanned, fanning me and peeling me grapes and so forth. Well, plus the whole 'world peace, harmony with nature, no parking tickets, etc' type stuff

But even if you were allowed to trap and shoot whatever you wanted whenever you wanted, there would still be some predators that wandered in (predators, by their nature, have large ranges and roam quite a lot) and saw your chickens before you saw them. Also, more to the point in this partiuclar discussion, there will be days when a tree knocks your paddock fences flat, or your charger goes to the great junkpile in the sky, or you *know* you have a predator around that's taking your chickens but you just haven't gotten it yet . At times like those, it is *awfully* nice to be able to put animals somewhere really secure yet (as much as possible) comfortable for them.
This is why for horses, even if you have 100 acres of pasture and they live out 24/7, you still really ought to have a small very well-fenced paddock available

JMO,
Pat
Okay you win, I'll make a fenced in run.