can adult chickens be vaccinated for marek's?

[leadwolf1]

Nice to meet you, too

Enjoy your weekend! We are heading out to a local church carnival...should be fun!

 

[Arielle]

Quote:
I am writing in generalities here for all that are reading this;I apologize that I sounded like I was personally attacking you. I am not. I'm glad that you bring up "the dark Side" . Everything has risks and benefits. It is up to each of us to get educated and understand the benefits and the risks. ANd use our best judgement. I did not write my post to create an arguement but rather add more concrete information than the vague guessing I see in the earlier posts. Merecks vaccine is widely used. It is reasonably priced and easy to use. As I have said repeatedly go to Dr Browns website and read the instructions for the dividing of the Mercks vaccine; he gives COMPLETE instructions on dividing this vaccine. He is giving the "off label" instructions AND providing a method to extend the usefulness of the vaccine to 2-2.5 hours by putting it a cold water bath.

My vets use drugs for off label use; all that means is that the manufacturer has not done the studies required by regulation to label it any other way. For example : my vet used high doses of oxytetracycline to relax the tendons in a newborn foal with contracted tendons. THis is an off label use that is fairly safe and effective. THis is a common practice among vets.



Enough said.


Edited to add: When I talked to Peter Brown and spoke to him at length I was under the impression that he was a veterinarian. In view of the comments below, I have tried to verify that Peter Brown is a vet and cannot do so. So in consideration of this fact, as I said before, continue to do your own research and decide for yourself what course of action to take regarding vaccinating with Merecks vaccine.

 

[seminolewind]

"Dr." Peter Brown is not a vet or a doctor. Doc is a nickname used by many. People know him as "the Chicken Doc" because of his vast knowledge of chickens.

 

[rockinpaints]

I am writing in generalities here for all that are reading this;I apologize that I sounded like I was personally attacking you. I am not. I'm glad that you bring up "the dark Side" . Everything has risks and benefits. It is up to each of us to get educated and understand the benefits and the risks. ANd use our best judgement. I did not write my post to create an arguement but rather add more concrete information than the vague guessing I see in the earlier posts. Merecks vaccine is widely used. It is reasonably priced and easy to use. As I have said repeatedly go to Dr Browns website and read the instructions for the dividing of the Mercks vaccine; he gives COMPLETE instructions on dividing this vaccine. He is giving the "off label" instructions AND providing a method to extend the usefulness of the vaccine to 2-2.5 hours by putting it a cold water bath. My vets use drugs for off label use; all that means is that the manufacturer has not done the studies required by regulation to label it any other way. For example : my vet used high doses of oxytetracycline to relax the tendons in a newborn foal with contracted tendons. THis is an off label use that is fairly safe and effective. THis is a common practice among vets.

I don't appreciate being attacked for simply repeating the instructions from a reputable avian vet. Read for yourself, Dr Browns instructions.

Enough said.

Hi Arielle!

I use drugs and vaccines off label as well, but ya never know when someone would have a reaction to something that I might have suggested. I was just protecting myself by adding a tiny disclaimer that I wasn't suggesting everyone do what I did.
(I tried to find 'Dr. Browns' instructions in case it was a little different than I do but couldn't find it. Is there a link you could provide?)

Have a good weekend,
Nellie

 

[Arielle]

NOt so easy to find! Fortunately I saved a PDF file the first time I found it just in case I ordered the vaccine. Here it is.

http://www.firststatevetsupply.com/content/view/17/37/




NO offense taken. And yes I understand the CYA caveat.

I may adopt your phrasing to prevent a law suit!

 

[Arielle]

Quote: Where do you buy the Coccivac D?

My understanding of this vaccine is rather confusing. I need more information on it.

ANd how the dickens do you get a 25 dose allotment??

 

[rockinpaints]

Where do you buy the Coccivac D?

My understanding of this vaccine is rather confusing. I need more information on it.

ANd how the dickens do you get a 25 dose allotment??

Morning! I sent you a PM.

 

[seminolewind]

I, too, think my next batch will be vaccinated for coccidiosis as well. My last 4 that died had coccidiosis and there were no symptoms until hours before they died.

 

[leadwolf1]

Does anybody know what strains are covered by the vaccine? How about the incidence of failure?

 

[rockinpaints]

E.acerrvulina, E.brunetti, E.hagani, E.maxima, E.mirati, E.necatrix, E.praecox, and E.tenella

Failure depends on so many variables. Was the vaccine good, was it administered correctly, and did they ingest
enough oocysts to give a good immunity.

Having said all that, it is a much better option than not vaccinating (in my humble opinion....).

Does anybody know what strains are covered by the vaccine? How about the incidence of failure?