Gapeworm ?

[dawg53]

I have to say that SafeGuard did not rid my chooks of gapeworm. I gave them much more then the recommended dose and it did not work! You need to do the turpentine/castor oil mix now and get some levamisole! One of my chooks was on her last leg and the castor oil and turpentine mixture saved her life! The levamisole saved the flock. Read some of the other posts on this site. You will see that others did not have good luck with SafeGuard.

If you're saying that you gave the castor oil/turpentine mixture down the esophagus to flush the worms/larva/eggs after treating with levamisol...I agree.
Some folks have used a feather dipped in kerosene and inserted the feather deep in the trachea to kill the gapeworms.

 

[ldchetty]

All I can say is that one of my chickens could barely breathe and after I gave her the castor oil/turpentine mixture she could. Not sure how it worked, but it did. Also, the treating once and then again another 7 to 10 days doesn't work. Here is a scholarly article concerning gapeworm in birds and somewhere it mentions that a continuous low dose of med is best: http://wildpro.twycrosszoo.org/S/00dis/Parasitic/Gapeworm_Infection.htm. I followed this advice and my flock no longer has gapeworm.

 

[ldchetty]

The turpentine/castor oil mixture allows the chicken's airway to be cleared until you can get levamisole. I used this mixture on my flock every 12 hours until I got the med. I am not speaking philosophically, this is how I saved my flock.

 

[casportpony]

The turpentine/castor oil mixture allows the chicken's airway to be cleared until you can get levamisole. I used this mixture on my flock every 12 hours until I got the med. I am not speaking philosophically, this is how I saved my flock.

How does it clear the airway? Surely you don't put it in the trachea, or do you?

-Kathy

 

[casportpony]

Any oil in airway is likely to cause lipoid pneumonia, and turpentine probably not good either.

-Kathy

 

[dawg53]

Quote:
If the mixture went down the trachea, they would aspirate.

 

[casportpony]

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[casportpony]

Quote:
If the mixture went down the trachea, they would aspirate.
Lol, that was my point.

-Kathy

 

[Eggcessive]

I can't say what works best on gapeworm since I have never treated it, but the literature supports fenbendazole (SafeGuard, Panacur.) I would use it just because it is readily available. Kerosene has been an old timey remedy that worked on many insects and worm infestations, including lice, but I would be afraid of hydrocarbon inhalation if giving it down the throat with a feather. Here are a couple of articles on how to treat syngamus trachea or gapeworm:
http://parasitipedia.net/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=2653&Itemid=2942
http://www.merckmanuals.com/vet/poultry/helminthiasis/overview_of_helminthiasis_in_poultry.html

 

[casportpony]

• http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lipid_pneumonia
• http://www.merckmanuals.com/vet/res...eumonia/overview_of_aspiration_pneumonia.html

-Kathy