green jungle fowl!!!!

[pheasant24]

Does any one have any jungle fowl for sale???
how much do they ussually go for???

 

[RobG7aChattTN]

I just got a pair! I had to scramble a bit because they came a day earlier than expected and I was still building a new quarantine cage with a padded ceiling so they wouldn’t hurt themselves as they tend to launch skyward when startled. I was amazed at how calm this pair was as they were in the garage while I finished up. Then, amazingly, this pair has been far more calm than any other Junglefowl that I’ve had. I don’t think the padded ceiling was even necessary (but can’t hurt).

 

[Junglefowl]

Hello there, I'm new too the forum but, saw your post. I have breed junglefowl among other pheasant species for years. I have Red junglefowl, Grey Junglefowl, and Ceylon junglefowl and plan on adding the Green junglefowl soon. Green junglefowl will go for $500 a pair and up. Depends on the breeder. I know of only a few people here in the states that breed them.
Have you ever raised any kind of junglefowl. The reason I ask is that the green junglefowl are not for beginingers. They are very hard to raise.
I hope I've helped you out in some way.

Thanks,
Saul Villagrana
Villagrana Aviary
http://www.villagranaaviary.zoomshare.com

 

[Boggy Bottom Bantams]

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You still need junglefowl experience first, they are different than all those.
they and the ceylons.
both average $400-$600 per pair for yearlings.
They are EXTREMELY flighty
they can not tollerate any type of cold
do not produce heavy amounts
need more specialised diets
realy need to be off ground if possible
like heavy cover
areial roost and perches
etc
more like a tragopan or something than chickens

the reds and greys are much cheaper and lots easiler to raise, $80- $150 per pair on average
still similar in care, but much tougher birds and can handle more learning on your part than the other two

you'll never find a seller for eggs or chicks on greens, those types of fowl arent sold that way in general

 

[pheasant24]

ok I am thinking Greys!!!!!

 

[ahsworkshop]

I'm a newbie in raising chickens ... no experience at all before .. but some months ago i tried to raise a pair of green jungle fowl baby chickens ... and here they are now :

 

[philter4]

I'm a newbie in raising chickens ... no experience at all before .. but some months ago i tried to raise a pair of green jungle fowl baby chickens ... and here they are now :

I raise both green and grey jungle fowl and I am not trying to be mean but I hope this is not the cage that you are keeping these birds in, it is way too small for one bird let alone the pair. These birds need at least 100 to 125 square feet per pair to be kept long term. In a small cage like this the birds are so stressed out the as they get older you are going to see feather loss, aggression, especially the rooster to the hen and they will stop eating and just go down hill. My newest pair was in quarantine for only 3 weeks in a small pen that is 6 X 3 X 3 ft and he beat the female up so badly that I had to separate them and the hen still has scars on her back and is missing feathers on her breast and base of the tail.

The long term diet of both species is also very different then a chicken or pheasant, they are insect eaters that supplement the main diet with greens and seeds so they need a crumble or pellet that has at least 20% protein and to this add meal worms or crickets. I change my food grains in the middle of the day, my birds tend to stop eating if the food sits around for too long, I am not sure if this is normal of not but changing the grain in the middle of the day they will feed again in the late afternoon while if I don't they wont eat again after the morning feeding.

As mentioned they need heat and can't take the cold very well, my barns are heated using several reptile heating lamps on a thermostat, if the temps get below 40 outside the barn the lamps come on and stay on until the temps rise again. I have digital thermometers in the barn with memory and the coldest it gets in the greens side of the pen is about 60 degrees, the grey jungle fowl also have heat but they can take much lower temps. Also mentioned is the fact they these birds are so shy and flighty that they need lots of places to feel secure and hidden, they also have perches that are about 6 ft (the barns are 8 ft tall) and they almost always perch on the top levels. Outside they have perches at all levels and it runs through live bamboo plants at several spots so they can get up and out of site if they want to. They can fly as well as any other type of pheasant, not at all like a chicken, so they must be covered at all times.

Breeding is like other jungle fowl but they are not very prolific, my grey jungle fowl usually give me 6 to 10 eggs a season but they are F1's (all 4 parents were wild birds), I also have two other blood lines, one from zoo stock and the other from Elton Housley and they produce slightly higher amounts of eggs. Last year I had another pair and between the 5 pairs I got 49 eggs. from June to October. The greens have not produced any eggs yet but from everything I have read and been told they produce less the the greys normally.

Hope this was helpful, these are not at all like either chickens or pheasants and are not a good "pet" birds, they are more high strung and flighty then any other species of pheasant I have ever kept.

 

[ahsworkshop]

Resolution,

Woow .. good Indonesian ... Thank you for informing to other peoples -- especially in the US -- how people in our country treating green jungle fowls for centuries ... and you're absolutely right ..

I'm just a newbie in raising chickens and just following what others doing ... Whether its right or wrong i just want to keep them alive ...

For green jungle fowls captured from jungles, small cages usually are used to threat them so they do not hurt themselves. Believe me they are very very wild ... and prefer sacrificing their lives instead of seeing our face, lol.

Seems to be a cruel thing and unfair for them ... but believe me, they're much more secure there -- in a cage -- instead of living in the jungle and hunted by crazy peoples and end their lives in frying pan ....

my jungle fowls are familiar with my family members and they feel comfort to be among us .. but they can smell strangers even if they're tens meter away and begin to be panic ....

I love them and plan to move them in wider cage, and hope that i can see them flying, lol ....

The male ever run away from the cage accidentally when the cage was opened .... and i called him to come back ... and believe me ... after a couple of minutes he came back. Maybe he's hungry and nobody but me offering food ...lol .... home sweet home ..... lol ...

Anyway, you're obviously a green jungle fowls guru here ... and i appreciated your advices ...

 

[philter4]

Resolution,

Woow .. good Indonesian ... Thank you for informing to other peoples -- especially in the US -- how people in our country treating green jungle fowls for centuries ... and you're absolutely right ..

I'm just a newbie in raising chickens and just following what others doing ... Whether its right or wrong i just want to keep them alive ...

For green jungle fowls captured from jungles, small cages usually are used to threat them so they do not hurt themselves. Believe me they are very very wild ... and prefer sacrificing their lives instead of seeing our face, lol.

Seems to be a cruel thing and unfair for them ... but believe me, they're much more secure there -- in a cage -- instead of living in the jungle and hunted by crazy peoples and end their lives in frying pan ....

my jungle fowls are familiar with my family members and they feel comfort to be among us .. but they can smell strangers even if they're tens meter away and begin to be panic ....

I love them and plan to move them in wider cage, and hope that i can see them flying, lol ....

The male ever run away from the cage accidentally when the cage was opened .... and i called him to come back ... and believe me ... after a couple of minutes he came back. Maybe he's hungry and nobody but me offering food ...lol .... home sweet home ..... lol ...

Anyway, you're obviously a green jungle fowls guru here ... and i appreciated your advices ...

Just because people keep them that way doesn't make it the best way, I have traveled all over the world, I worked most of my life collecting animals for scientific and both public zoos and private collections and I have seen things that would make people sick as to how they treat animals in captivity. In the 90's I spent 3 years all over Indonesia and South East Asia and I have seen things like monkeys chained to a stand or snakes tied to a stick and stored under the floorboards until they were ready to be packed and shipped, I have also seen hundreds of jungle fowl and hybrid jungle fowl tied to stakes with a wicker basket over them for shade and shelter, this does not mean it is the best way to keep the animals even though they are cared for and fed, just because this is the way people have kept them for generations in my opinion it is not the best way to keep them. Besides, I would think that even my jungle fowl would rather be in the wild with people and other animals hunting them then in my cages if given the choice.

I know you are doing what others do and seeing the success of their birds you feel you are keeping them correctly, and as you mention, I do hope you move them to a flight pen where they can have space to fly, but in the mean time it is unfair to the birds in my opinion. Just because they can survive that way doesn't mean it is the way it should be done. I am not trying to condemn other countries or people for how they treat wildlife of any sort, and if you are successful in keeping the birds I am happy for you even if I disagree with how you keep them, my point is this is not the best way for the animals and I have had very bad experiences with keeping this species (and others for that matter) under conditions that stress them, and keeping a bird the size of a chicken in a wire cage is not something that calms the birds down, they just get used to it.

 

[pheasant24]

I like Greys. Are they more hardy??