ISO vent sexing specialist

[Klehigh]

This chick is 1 day old. It’s a cream legbar hen x maran roo. The siblings had the clear cream/white spot on head to identify male. This one did not. However, based on wing sexing is showing pissobile male? (Coverts are extending passed primaries ) Anyone want to help identify?

 

[The Moonshiner]

Skip the vent sexing before you injure it.
Skip the wing sexing because it only works when crossing a fast feathering male over a slow feathering female. Your cross is not that.
Go with your original method. No headspot means female.

 

[MamaPoult]

Agreed vent sexing is helpful for turkeys but not as for chicks.

 

[The Moonshiner]

Agreed vent sexing is helpful for turkeys but not as for chicks.

Vent sexing is very helpful with chicks IF you know how to do it correctly.
It's just not something you want to learn off of YouTube or by experimenting unless you're prepared for possible injuries to the chick.
If you're unsure what you're even looking for it isn't worth the risk of breaking a pucker string.

 

[MamaPoult]

Vent sexing is very helpful with chicks IF you know how to do it correctly.
It's just not something you want to learn off of YouTube or by experimenting unless you're prepared for possible injuries to the chick.
If you're unsure what you're even looking for it isn't worth the risk of breaking a pucker string.

Ok gotcha

 

[Flocking Viking Chicken]

This chick is 1 day old. It’s a cream legbar hen x maran roo. The siblings had the clear cream/white spot on head to identify male. This one did not. However, based on wing sexing is showing pissobile male? (Coverts are extending passed primaries ) Anyone want to help identify?

From your pictures you posted your vent examination will not cause any damage. Where the damage occurs is when you get too aggressive in spreading the vent. Too much spreading and side, top or bottom pressure can cause the intestine to come out of the Cloaca. This will cause prolapsed vent, where the intestine comes out out and stays out. When I first started practicing vent sexing years ago, I had one that did that, but it went back in the next day and was ok. But indeed you can cause death when that happens.
Vent sexing can be done with very little pressure. You will know when you are being too aggressive because you will see the intestine inside when spreading and pressing too much, & even more so when it comes out a little.. Though youtube will not fully teach you how to become a proficient vent sex expert, there is much you can glean from studying the many, techniques those posting have to offer.
Not every breed, nor every chick in a particular breed, will exhibit the same sex organ shape and size. They differ, but with practice, to can get familiar with the breeds you are producing. If you do like you show in the pictures you posted, & tap the Cloaca with your finger, it will open and close 4-5 times or more. This will allow you to look inside a little better without having to force it to get the same results, & you will never damage a chick.
When I learned, there was no youtube to go to, to get info on this subject. I had to study material from books. It never hurts to take a look to assess the differences of the sex organs of a batch of chicks. After much practice you will start to see the differences, & be able to separate the chicks with respect to those differences, & see how they develop as they grow to determine your progress in learning. Don't give up and you may get there..
No guarantee, as it sometimes takes an eye to see the differences of the various shaped organs. Just be gentle & don't cause a prolapsed vent. If you do, you will know what you did to cause it, & don't do it again. You will learn what not to do. Sometimes there are casualties when learning this skill. Just be prepared to dispatch a chick when you mess one up, don't let them suffer.
I have had to dispatch thousands of male chicks when I was sexing for layers. It is an unpleasant job but it has to be done at times. Put yer big boy boots on and get er done. Don't let others discourage you from learning unpopular procedures like vent sexing. Good luck & be gentle.

 

[JacinLarkwell]

No headspot means female.

Even if the father was a possible barred breed?

 

[NatJ]

Even if the father was a possible barred breed?

If the mother is a Cream Legbar, then all sons will have barring, so all male chicks will have headspots.

A chick with no headspot must be female. The OP is asking about a chick with no headspot, so that chick must be female.

It is true that a father with barring could produce daughters with barring, but that does not affect the chick in question, because she does not have barring.