Oxine and Marek's

[threehorses]

Quote:
That is for the ACTIVATED product

Yep, it sure is.

I figured people can read that themselves.

 

[dlhunicorn]

Actually I find it unclear and I wonder if people realize the very real differences between the two forms (efficacy)... only thing I can find on the NON activated form of their product is on the technical sheet which also deals with the activated form except that it does mention in one place that the NONactivated form is a bacteriostat whereas the activated form is a disinfectant
The articles by K. Theodore speak very specifically of only using the nONactivated form and not using the activated product (for very good reason as you may not use that around live birds and must use special respiratory equipment) and as a bacteriostat (not bacteriocide) then why are people posting that it is going to kill all these viruses and such (which a bacteriostat will not do)????

 

[threehorses]

You know, Diana, I've seen at least two articles by people saying it will - but like you, I didn't find anything as clear as your Virkon list at all for it. And I thought "so what do they know, and where did they find that information" because I didn't see anything that listed the specific virus or the common name for it for Oxine. Yet.

As I said before, that's the one I'd recommend as it's pretty clearly stated - in black and white. And in your case, in bold.

Of course really this is all theoretical. One could soak the ground "til kingdom come" with all manner of chemical, and then dander could blow over from a different part of the yard and it's be in the yard again. Or there could be a bird that has it within and hasn't shown symptoms. Etc, etc. It's all quite frustrating.

 

[dlhunicorn]

That is why the governments go with virkonS for disasters (that is how I found out about it > from the birdflu outbreak here in holland > I had to contact DuPont to find out how to order it as they really dont bother marketing it for the hobbyist here) There is no one magic bullet sanitizer for all situations though (Please note I am speaking of products where you are NOT recquired to de-populate and use respirators and special equipment to use it such as the AcTIVATED form of Oxine) and concerning dirt, ... well I dont think there is really anything to truly sanitize dirt in a field situation except removal and burning.

I contacted (internet) Bio-cide International and found it unusual that they have not answered my enquiry... I searched their site and the internet for the type of efficacy studies I find at the Virkon S (DuPont/Antec site) but outside the one vague efficacy statement and technical paper found zilch.
I have posted the question to the relevant EPA experts and hopefully will get a definitive answer to post here at the group.

 

[Marme]

I’m hearing a lot about virkon, and I have confirmed Mareks in my flock. Does anyone know if you have to remove the birds from the area that you are treating??

 

[Wyorp Rock]

I’m hearing a lot about virkon, and I have confirmed Mareks in my flock. Does anyone know if you have to remove the birds from the area that you are treating??

Anytime you are treating housing it's a very good idea to keep birds out until the product dries.

 

[Ladies-Eight]

I'm very sorry about your loss. I have only lost one chicken and I don't know why. So I don't really know how you feel. Good luck in your endeavors.

 

[delladolittle]

Well you'll definitely get a hug or three /hug hug hug!

I'm so sorry to hear about your losses. You might want to check out this article on mareks vaccination and doing it in older birds who show symptoms; it also holds a bit of an answer to your question:

http://tinyurl.com/kvdkg9

In the mean time, I would treat all of your birds with Corid as it gets all 9 species of the cocci without being antibiotic in nature.

Remember, mareks is more than in the soil and the birds. It's in the dander, etc. But vaccinating correctly - as in the article - and using boosters, quarantining very carefully for the first few months of life, can go a LONG way in preventing the big problems with marek's - the paralysis, neoplasias, and ocular changes. There's hope.

Other good articles:
http://www.shagbarkbantams.com/page9.htm
http://www.thepoultrysite.com/articles/377/small-flock-vaccination

Hello. I know your post is from 2009. But I’m wondering if you have a fresh link to the article you mention above your tiny url link. It only goes to buying a bottle of vaccine. I don’t see the article and would love to read it. Thanks!!

 

[Lortiz]

Bleach won't kill anything as it's inactivated when it hits dirt. YOu'll want to use one of the other disinfectants.

Here's an article that tells you which disinfectant types work for which situations (in other words, which don't work on dirt, but only on surfaces)

http://msucares.com/poultry/diseases/disinfectants.html

Another article specifically on Hygiene against Marek's.
http://www.wattpoultry.com/PoultryInternational/Article.aspx?id=24900

Note that you can't just really build in another place as the Marek's is carried in the dander unfortunately. Dander is already blown onto your whole property. You just have to spray wherever you can with something that is effective in the type of situation (dirt, surfaces, etc), where you build your new coops, etc. And you have to vaccinate. It's quite simple, just sounds trickier than it is. Of course, as I said before, please read the other article on giving the boosters and keeping the birds free from challenges in the first part of their lives to allow the Marek's vaccine to take effect.

here's Oxine's efficacy sheet:
http://www.bio-cide.com/uploads/Efficacy Oxine.pdf

I'd look for disinfectants that are active against the avian herpesvirus. Marek's is allid herpesvirus 2 (GaHV-2) . And obviously I'd use dlh's recommendation as it specifically lists the Marek's virus.

I know this is an older post, but I would really like to see the information about giving boosters. Unfortunately, this link http://tinyurl.com/kvdkg9 isn't working. Do you know where I can find it? Thanks!