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I use straw as my deep litter. My coops aren't dirty or stinky, either. I just keep piling it on. In the winter I will take off the top layer that's crusted with poop since it's frozen and doesn't really break down. Or, sometimes I'll just throw in more straw...Donrae, I was talking about hay and straw. I cannot use deep litter because I'm allergic to it.