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Thanks ChicKat nice job

I agree to that - will post a few pics later Yes - in showing it is what an individual bird LOOK like, not it's genetic makeup, that counts - so if they were intended to LOOK silver, that would be clearly stated, instead of Cream I would love to see some pictures of CL's that were...

ChickenQueen, by very light do you mean yellow? There are some recessive white genes floating around in CL's.

Well ChicKat you are very kind. I would classify myself as a backyard hobbiest who really enjoys my chickens, and wants to do the best job possible in improving what I have. True breeders are a dedicated bunch, and I admire them immensely.

To me the major difference in the two birds in those pictures is the barring - bird two has much more distinctive, clearer barring. Thanks again Walt. Looks like my timer is about up, I am approaching 5 years with chickens! I did tell my boyfriend that if we do end up moving to Florida, the...

Good job Chickat

I also like the length of her back.

He has a beautiful comb

Chickat, as far as color in your picture - The grass is a very pleasing green. I like the brown gate as a contrast, and the color is very uniform. OK as far as the rooster, to me his hackles and saddle appears very pale cream, but I don't see any chestnut in the shoulder, looks like...

I would say he looks fast.

1 - tail is better, but hard to evaluate angle from that view. If the bottom picture is him as well, his tail is a little high. Higher wing carriage. Chest a little more filled out. 2 - better comb. Lower wing carriage. Looks a little upright, as if he was alarming a little, his angles may be...

Don't we wish :)

I agree as well.

While I understand the desire to work toward a standard, it would be unrealistic to expect those who prefer a certain look to give up their preference and work on a color they do not prefer. Folks like that are more likely to abandon the breed altogether if pressured to stay in the main group...

I think it would be hard to call the color of this guy a Cream - but he is quite lovely! I would like to see definite double barring too, preserving autosexing and appearance both.

I see no reason why establishing a Cream Legbar standard and working towards a more saturated second variety are mutually exclusive. But to get a breed APA registered you have to start somewhere, with ONE variety. The important thing would be that the more colorful birds are not included in the...

Thank you for your time Walt, it reassuring to know that we are on the right track. We don't need 100 (or 50) identical birds, we just need a group that overall satisfies the breed characteristics, including color and shape - that means that some minor variability in color, similar to what is...

That is good to hear KPenley, because one thing I do know for sure is that I will not be breeding anything that requires double breeding. Ever.

Blue has a variable effect on black (and gold), with a single copy diluting black to blue, and a double even further to splash (it also dilutes gold, as found in Lemon Blue). So unfortunately for those of us that are not quick with genes, genes are not just on or off.