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    BREEDING FOR PRODUCTION...EGGS AND OR MEAT.

    Such a clearcut and unencumbered view of things. To each his own. May we all prosper at our endeavors. The End.
  2. J

    BREEDING FOR PRODUCTION...EGGS AND OR MEAT.

    You hit the nail on the head Antfarm. A bird I raise for MY conditions may not be suited fir yours and vice versa:)but we can all garden:)
  3. J

    BREEDING FOR PRODUCTION...EGGS AND OR MEAT.

    Hybrid vigor is not what I'm after:) Every strain of chicken started with a vision and a goal. I do apologize for getting off track.
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    BREEDING FOR PRODUCTION...EGGS AND OR MEAT.

    I'm in the process of getting two dozen hatching eggs from a breeder of copper marans. They are beutiful birds that they breed to the french SOP and show,winning ribbons for not only the dark eggs but the birds too. The seller would probably think I'm nutz,purchasing the eggs not with the...
  5. J

    BREEDING FOR PRODUCTION...EGGS AND OR MEAT.

    I see parts of it in the Chanteclers being raised by hellbender,and in Daves La Bresse. Two breeds,that I don't currently have. I recently hatched an asil. The intention is to puti t over my DC. It may slow down the egg production. For me ,thats not a problem.
  6. J

    BREEDING FOR PRODUCTION...EGGS AND OR MEAT.

    @Antfarm I disagree with you " not being a breeder " while you may not have the facilities or resources,you are STILL trying to breed to a type that has the attributes you desire. We all place OUR mark upon the birds we raise and breed. And as a side note,geneticists with the broiler industry...
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    BREEDING FOR PRODUCTION...EGGS AND OR MEAT.

    @Hellbender don't get me wrong,I do enjoy the purebloods the aristocrats. But for me personally its a way IMO of starting with known fixed attributes as I play with my own hybrids. And honestly if it wasn't for people thinking this way with similar goals we would IMO still be getting eggs from...
  8. J

    BREEDING FOR PRODUCTION...EGGS AND OR MEAT.

    If availability is so restricted it forces you to buy from places like Greenfire's,I don't have a problem with it. People should look at it as a starting point,not and end point. Trying to refine and improve on all strains IMO should be the goal. That and having FUN:)
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    BREEDING FOR PRODUCTION...EGGS AND OR MEAT.

    @Gjensen, some folks beleive that the MORE they pay for something,the better it is. Greenfire play's on this very well.I see a lot of advertising where the only claim to fame is Greenfire's lines. I subscribe to the school of thought that once you have control of the birds then you should NOT...
  10. J

    BREEDING FOR PRODUCTION...EGGS AND OR MEAT.

    Greenfire Farms carries an "American Bresse" It looks NOTHING. Like Dave's birds. Dave's birds make Greenfire's look like leghorns.
  11. J

    BREEDING FOR PRODUCTION...EGGS AND OR MEAT.

    Very Impressive Dave. I have DC and love the breed. What kind of disposition do the La Bresse have?Are they real flighty? Wish you were in the US. Your birds have the body confirmation Im seeking. Great pictures.
  12. J

    BREEDING FOR PRODUCTION...EGGS AND OR MEAT.

    Beutiful. Your Bressse and Cornish are massive.
  13. J

    BREEDING FOR PRODUCTION...EGGS AND OR MEAT.

    Impressive dog hellbender!! Antfarm you look like your on the right track with your birds,you can NEVER have too much information. @Dave C. Do the Bresse really TASTE as good as all the publicatios say?
  14. J

    BREEDING FOR PRODUCTION...EGGS AND OR MEAT.

    Great pictures!!they are beutiful
  15. J

    BREEDING FOR PRODUCTION...EGGS AND OR MEAT.

    I think our focused attention trips their predator radar
  16. J

    BREEDING FOR PRODUCTION...EGGS AND OR MEAT.

    I still like the Chanteclers though. The body shape,the way they carry themselves. They look Regal to me.
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