Wheaten Marans male owners, need a favor, check the hackle and saddle feathers and see if they have a black stripe similar to the BC Marans. Thanks, Don
The neck hackle and saddle feathers should not have any black markings in the male, black markings should be in the neck hackle of the...
There are different terminology used in different Countries, and in different breeds.
The Coronation Sussex in the UK & Europe are a Blue Silver Columbian. eWh/eWh S/S Bl/bl+
The Coronation Sussex in Australia, were the US Coronation Sussex were sourced from are
Lavender Silver Columbian...
The following Marans varieties are recognised in Europe, and are Wheaten based
Wheaten
Columbian
Black-tailed Buff
All could have Blue variations
Blue Wheaten
Coronation Columbian
Blue-Tailed Buff
or Splash variations
Splash Wheaten (psuedo Pyle)
Splash (White) tailed Buff
Silver Wheaten &...
Unless there is another LF dual purpose bird that is Wheaten that I could use...?
Wheaten Old English Game, or if pushed both New Hampshire & RIR are Wheatens with Columbian added. What are you trying to make?
David
Question- does anyone have Wheaten Marans without feathered legs?
These do not exist as a recognised variety. British Standard, the clean legged ones, only recognises Black,Dark Cuckoo,Silver Cuckoo & Gold Cuckoo.
All French Marans are feather legged.
Maybe you call it by another name?
David
flgardengirl,
If you have a Blue Marans it is fairly easy to infuse the Blue gene into Wheatens.
First cross you can expect to get 50% of your birds that are Blue, & 50% that will be black.
Cull the Blacks.
Mate the best F1 Blues to Wheatens, you will get a mix of black,Blue, Wheaten & Blue...
On my monitor the posted MOAC chart the 6 egg is the minimum I would accept .
As has been said colour prints vary,fade etc, monitors show differences.
My only foolproof test is to look at the eggs as laid, and select the darkest.
This increases the depth of colour over time. Most of my eggs...
The French Standard states that a hen must produce at least one egg that is graded as a 4 or better to be a Marans. This does not mean that every egg the hen lays in it's life has to meet this Standard, but it is what we would prefer.
The Sec of the French Marns Club advised that the vast...
The solution is to gather together 6-12+ dedicated breeders to work together to eliminate defects, cotton tail or short toes for example. Which requires a willingness to exchange eggs, chicks or mature birds.
The short toes can be caused by a dominant gene, thus relatively easy to counter act...
OK, I thought it might be a line producing show winners with no regard to egg color and another line producing dark egg color.
That is also what some breeders are doing in some countries. The introduction of Russian bred Black Coppers, after the Germans had eaten nearly all French poultry in...
Ok, so now that there is a greater understanding of genetics why aren't they changing the way they decide things, taking all into consideration?
Usually because the people in charge of Standards, in any country, are very conservative and have a "what was good enough for Grandad is good enough...
Most Standards were written before genetics were known, never mind understood.
The Standard is a description of what the original breeders considered the idea bird.
As a result of the conflict between these two statements many Standards are impossible to achieve.
This has, in some cases...
I find the systems used in different countries very interesting. Our system is based on a Standards Committee, which calls for input from from Breed Clubs,Poultry Clubs and individual breeders. The latter more so in the rarer breeds. In this way a small number of people do not control the input...
The original Marans were a meat breed that laid a very dark egg. I find mine to be a good dual purpose bird.
The British,in the 1930s, bred in Light Sussex & Plymouth Rock blood to maintain meat quality & assist in sexing at day old.
Only time will tell and we will just have to wait on the...
So maybe the solution is to come up with a new Marans with RJF colors.
So then you would have a Marans variety with two disqualifications.
It would basically be a white lobed ,dark grey legged version of a Golden Salmon Marans.
Are you also changing the type, so it has the shape of a RJF?
Sorry...
Illia, you red cockerel is heterozygous for the Columbian gene, thus he is nearly a Black-tailed Buff.
Genotype for Wheaten is eWh/eWh s+/s+ and BTBuff eWh/eWh s+/s+ Co/Co.
There is some natural variation in Wheaten hens, I would find both your acceptable.
Wheatens should have a solid black...