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  1. capayvalleychick

    CSU - Chicken State University- Large Fowl SOP

    This same question was discussed here: post #18193 " Originally Posted by fowlman01 your guess on age vs weight is valid. Each breed or strain is different. My New Hampshire weigh what they should for a cockeral by 8 months, but my Rocks would need all 12 month's to reach weight."
  2. capayvalleychick

    CSU - Chicken State University- Large Fowl SOP

    He wrote that in 2010. AFAIK, he lived in Illinois during the time he was breeding Dorkings - from the early 80's to about 2006. He was president of the old Dorking Club during part of that time.
  3. capayvalleychick

    CSU - Chicken State University- Large Fowl SOP

    My Dorkings have always been very slow to fill out. Here's another quote from Phil Bartz on Dorking growth: "you find that if you select faster maturing birds you will lose size and usually cull birds that are actually better in many ways but, they just hadn't come into their season yet...
  4. capayvalleychick

    CSU - Chicken State University- Large Fowl SOP

    I like the shape of the pullet. I wonder if her head is a bit small? Mine are looking similar this year... nice bodies with better length, but the heads look too small for the bodies. I'm not sure if that will change as they mature. I'm also noticing it more this year because I have some of...
  5. capayvalleychick

    CSU - Chicken State University- Large Fowl SOP

    I have a question for the judges. See the slight separation of the tail feathers seen in this photo... is that considered split tail?
  6. capayvalleychick

    CSU - Chicken State University- Large Fowl SOP

    Here, on the other side of this country, our Silver Grays are enduring another summer of 100 + temperatures and taking it in stride. We are in the fourth day of a heat wave, with this as our forecast: They are uncomfortable, but shade and some wet ground keeps them from overheating. The hens...
  7. capayvalleychick

    CSU - Chicken State University- Large Fowl SOP

    Type. " The general shape and form common to all members of a breed..."
  8. capayvalleychick

    CSU - Chicken State University- Large Fowl SOP

    Here are Silver Gray Dorkings, all out of my breeding. Early on, I made every rookie mistake and I'm trying to make up for that now. So, these birds are a work in progress. I know that they need improvements in many areas, so I have long range goals and short range goals. My immediate goals are...
  9. capayvalleychick

    CSU - Chicken State University- Large Fowl SOP

    The breeder that I'm talking about has Silvers. She said that she needs to correct the shafting in her birds. I didn't look at the Red Dorking description, now I see it there.
  10. capayvalleychick

    CSU - Chicken State University- Large Fowl SOP

    That is on my long list of questions for Walt. I know a Dorking breeder who says that she needs to rid her Dorkings of shafting. I searched through the SOP - both the Dorking description and the general information about shafting. I cannot find anything specific to Dorkings that mentions...
  11. capayvalleychick

    CSU - Chicken State University- Large Fowl SOP

    Maybe that was written back when there was enough good, standard bred Dorkings available. Now, that is not the case, and I think if you followed that advice, you would be asking for trouble. FWIW Here is something, written to me a couple years ago, by Phil Bartz, a breeder of Dorkings: "The...
  12. capayvalleychick

    CSU - Chicken State University- Large Fowl SOP

    Their tail angle will rise as they mature. The ones that look like they have too low of tails may end up having the correct 45 degree angle. I know Walt doesn't like the fluff at the base of the tail. Wings look like they are nice & level. I like the nice rounded, forward chest on the one in the...
  13. capayvalleychick

    CSU - Chicken State University- Large Fowl SOP

    I'm not a pro, but I've seen a twisted feather. The individual feather is twisted - crooked - like a spiral. A feather out of line would be a normal formed feather that is out of place. So look at your bird's individual feathers to determine if they are twisted or out of place.
  14. capayvalleychick

    CSU - Chicken State University- Large Fowl SOP

    I was hoping that Karen was going to post photos of her Sussex.
  15. capayvalleychick

    CSU - Chicken State University- Large Fowl SOP

    Beautiful birds. I'm not a breeder of Orpingtons or Australorps, but have a novice observation. Looking at the artwork in the APA SOP, the tails on these pullets look more Orpington than Australorp. Maybe it's their youth or the Aussie standard. ?
  16. capayvalleychick

    CSU - Chicken State University- Large Fowl SOP

    It would be nice if the people, other than Bill & Walt, who do make comments, would state their experience with the breed. If their profile does not have descriptive information, I wonder whether they are Master Breeders or how much experience they have had breeding and showing.
  17. capayvalleychick

    CSU - Chicken State University- Large Fowl SOP

    Or maybe point out the photos which have birds with the best heads. I have seen the illustrations of crow headed in the SOP. I'm still trying to tell what that looks like on an actual bird. Are there two categories or three? Do birds have either a crow head or good head? Or do some birds fall...
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