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  1. centrarchid

    Old and Rare Breeds

    By all appearances I think you are correct. With respect to coloration they are brown red. American Game more accuracy. I would also like some like that.
  2. centrarchid

    Old and Rare Breeds

    First look into native options, what species are present that actually exhibit attributes you desire. Then research growth rate and ideal growth conditions for those species. If nothing suitable then look into what your neighbors under similar soil and climatic conditions have that might be...
  3. centrarchid

    Old and Rare Breeds

    Quote: I have seen similar references before in respect to coloration or form as being inherited more strongly from one parent or more. The 75% figure appears to symbolize more than half. Many of the color genes are coded for by the male chromosome (Z). If the allele is dominant and the...
  4. centrarchid

    Old and Rare Breeds

    They are athletic as well as cute. Hands down my favorite charges. I prefer hen raised over incubator hatched in part to confinement issues with squirrely little critters. Black games are not abundant. Likely because not enough breeders were involved in their development for gaming purposes...
  5. centrarchid

    Old and Rare Breeds

    I would think the reduced volume of plumage, feathers being shorter, would enable faster dumping of heat. The cameflouge value seems limited, otherwise it would look more like that of a hen. Another possible advantage, although to me unlikely, is that eclipse plummage can reduces weight and...
  6. centrarchid

    Old and Rare Breeds

    Quote: The eclipse molt seems to be an advantage when it gets hot during midwestern summer. Disadvantage likely due to selective breeding for looks. Our birds with eclipse moult could also be grey.
  7. centrarchid

    Old and Rare Breeds

    wclawrence, I have seen many of the brood protecting behaviors in my games but never all in same birds. Some hens will do killdeer thing to lure predator away from chicks. IF hen makes certain noise, then chicks freeze and hunker down waiting for hen to give all clear sound. Some of our...
  8. centrarchid

    Old and Rare Breeds

    wclawrence, I agree very much with possibility multiple wild species in background of domestic chickens. Some breeds may have different ratios of the different wild species. Getting to real point with your grey jungle fowl crosses. Do you keep them free range? Do roosters help with brooding...
  9. centrarchid

    Old and Rare Breeds

    Quote: Yes, and it is preferred they have a roost at about 2 feet, maybe 3 feet. Especially with younger birds, a perch too high can injure them. Their long legs shouldn't receive such shock when they land, especially while they're still growing. They could hurt themselves, or worse, break a...
  10. centrarchid

    Old and Rare Breeds

    Quote: True, the braggin' rights for birds went to duck, geese, and exotic species like peacocks and guineas, but they did have chickens other than "games". Jefferson wrote to his granddaughter frequently about his Bantams. Apparently, they were delicate and the chicks kept dying, but they...
  11. centrarchid

    Old and Rare Breeds

    Quote: Now why would you think that, since long before 1850 Washington and Jefferson both kept a variety of chickens, and they were not all games. If those guys did it, it's a safe bet other farmers did too. (I can't believe I miss typed "long" twice.) The others may not have been deemed...
  12. centrarchid

    Old and Rare Breeds

    Quote: Snobbery, cowardice, name calling. Raises my hackles. I want a face to face with those old farts. Even my ancestors that behaved as such. The the birds ability to survive as dunghill avengers is part of what enabled their persitance as a breed. Food was more than what was dug from...
  13. centrarchid

    Old and Rare Breeds

    Quote: When I read someone referring to a dunghill fowl, at least in older publications, it's the 19th century version of a literary sneer at any bird that had not been bred by and improved upon by "modern" methods, any "game" qualities of the breed were not under consideration by the author...
  14. centrarchid

    Old and Rare Breeds

    Saladin, Please note, animals raised as dunghill were game and used as such. Dunghill referred only to rearing system of their immediate source.
  15. centrarchid

    Old and Rare Breeds

    Quote: It could also be that a breeder by the Dominique (a French boy name) who may have bred a barred chicken and the name stuck to all barred breeds at the time. It would be hard to say just why the title Dominique was given to barred type fowl but it has/was and I believe that is the...
  16. centrarchid

    Old and Rare Breeds

    Quote: centra, I hear what you are saying. However, my experience is that if too few birds are hatched the result will be that the birds become smaller with each passing generation until they reach a plateau hence degenerate. (Bantams will become larger). There is always a move toward...
  17. centrarchid

    Old and Rare Breeds

    The followings statement must be taken in the context of many generations. "With fowl there is no such thing as maintaining. You are either improving a breed or they are degenerating." If this is reality, then a breed / line / population will change from its starting point into something it was...
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