Originally Posted by Beekissed
Maybe comes with age? When you get older and your body doesn't have the strength it once did, one finds ways to work smarter, not harder.
Still wondering what the other half of this McNab mix is, as the info I found on the McNab dogs were that these dogs were very gentle and friendly with other animals and livestock, making them a tad different from other herd type breeds. Knowing the tendencies of the other half may give insight on the lay of the land.
I don't want this to go BSL, and invite those with an axe to grind to share it, so it is sufficient to say the other half is a terrier breed.
Mcnabs are awesome - full Mcnabs are everything they say and more. Mcnabs are already independent thinkers though, they herd roughly the same way as the Border Collie the arrested prey drive, they chase, bark and nip at the heels of the cattle that have the colossal nerve to leave the pack and don't need to be cued - the best trained ones are started by their mother and are raised up around their livestock pack. Staying alive under the feet of something that outweighs you by 100x doesn't allow for waiting for instructions. Goats don't herd up the way other animals do necessarily either. Their joie du vivre is a slap in the face to a herding drive. Especially one with no formal experience behind it. They split off and once they go every goat for himself, there is no herd to herd, just prey on the hoof.
The terrier side makes that herding drive utterly useless. I agree with others that herding and guarding in the same dog is the perfect storm.
The drives bring out the worst in each other. I started this dog with an understanding that the terrier in him means he's a high drive dog that I can't give an inch with and he trained up solid - with humans. My daughter was very young and I wanted to make sure he knew the score about human pups and dogs. We didn't add livestock till he was just over 2, he is of course fixed, we knew from the get go this was a dog the world didn't need more of, and as he matured he really seemed to favor his good old boy side. He inhibits his bite when playing with other dogs and he's the first to yelp and go belly up when someone plays too rough. I didn't even bother trying to put him with stock because I had a feeling that it would be a situation that I would loose control over him in.
I'm feeling like I'd feel if my s/o cheated on me about the dog. Done. I hate to say that, but because I take what happened so seriously and around livestock it's not if, it's when and whether someone is here to stop him, I can not, will not go through what we did the other day. I got in there and did what I had to do, but I absolutely hated every second of it. I'm 110% either incapable or maybe just unwilling, I mean yeah they say you're likely to get bit eventually if you're dealing with a lot of dogs regularly, and I knew that, and am fully in acceptance of that, but that was just over the top. Dealing with a dog that acted like it didn't know me from paul, even for a split second makes that too much risk for me.