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[debid]

How about the yellow one and I have a red on that's the one in the back. Sorry new to this so have no idea what breed they are

The seller probably has a mixed flock with an Easter Egger rooster. So, I'd call them barnyard mixes.

 

[Tlmcq]

Easter Eggers are mixes...They come in a wide variety of colors even white..Alot of em have lil chipmunk stripes when they're chicks but not all of them. It depends on which breeds the parents were, one having blue eggs gene and other could be anything. The lil fuzzy cheeks are a good indication ya got some EE's. And, you'll have some pretty cool colored eggs. They are great backyard flock additions. And, so cute!

 

[junebuggena]

Easter Eggers are mixes...They come in a wide variety of colors even white..Alot of em have lil chipmunk stripes when they're chicks but not all of them. It depends on which breeds the parents were. The lil fuzzy cheeks are a good indication ya got some EE's. And, you'll have some pretty cool colored eggs.

Hatchery sourced Easter Eggers aren't mixed breeds at all. They just haven't been bred to meet a consistent standard.

 

[Tlmcq]

Hatchery sourced Easter Eggers aren't mixed breeds at all. They just haven't been bred to meet a consistent standard. 

EE's are a mixed breed, if you prefer the term hybrid, that's OK but essentially the same thing. They are created from one chicken with the gene for blue eggs, is.. Ameraucauna,Auracana, Cream Legbar, etc...The other parent could be any variety of breed. Depending, on what breeder is going for.They are not a pure bred chicken and, do not breed true, therefore a mixed breed chicken or hybrid if you don't like the sound of mixed. I'm not saying they aren't beautiful, quality, or awesome chickens, as I think they are all of those. Nor, am I trying to offend anyone. I'm just stating the genetic facts.

 

[junebuggena]

EE's are a mixed breed, if you prefer the term hybrid, that's OK but essentially the same thing. They are created from one chicken with the gene for blue eggs, is.. Ameraucauna,Auracana, Cream Legbar, etc...The other parent could be any variety of breed. Depending, on what breeder is going for.They are not a pure bred chicken and, do not breed true, therefore a mixed breed chicken or hybrid if you don't like the sound of mixed. I'm not saying they aren't beautiful, quality, or awesome chickens, as I think they are all of those. Nor, am I trying to offend anyone. I'm just stating the genetic facts.

That would imply that hatcheries have true Ameraucana, but most don't, and never have. The Ameraucana breed was actually derived from hatchery type Easter Eggers. Hatcheries have been breeding these birds since they were first imported, in the early 1900s, and the birds have changed very little in all those years. They are more of a landrace 'type' rather than a proper breed, but they are not 'mixed'. It's the Ameraucana breed that has Easter Egger in it's lineage, not the other way around.

 

[Tlmcq]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Easter_Egger
http://www.dare2dreamfarms.com/easter-eggers
They can be Ameraucauna that don't breed true, thereby, indicating something else in there lineage...Hence hybridization and not recognized as a breed by APA or ABA, but again very Wonderful and excellent flock additions. Just not a breed per se due to mixed heritage or hybridization. Not all EE's are from Ameraucauna stock, most are, but not all. There are hatcheries that do carry true Ameraucauna but they are much more expensive than an EE. Some try to pass EE off as Ameraucauna but they are not. They even call them Amercauna, Ameraucauna/Auracana, and other spellings which can be confusing and misleading.

 

[debid]

@Tlmcq EEs are the ancesteral lineage for both the Ameraucana and Araucana breeds, not the other way around. It's true that there are breeders creating EEs by crossing, say, Ameraucana and Leghorn to create a layer hybrid. But, that's not what the hatcheries do.

 

[Cerise1924]

@Tlmcq EEs are the ancesteral lineage for both the Ameraucana and Araucana breeds, not the other way around. It's true that there are breeders creating EEs by crossing, say, Ameraucana and Leghorn to create a layer hybrid. But, that's not what the hatcheries do.

Interesting! That is the opposite of what I have read, which is that the Araucana is the ancestor breed, from South America:

"The Ameraucana breed and "Easter Egger" hybrids of the United States, which also lay blue or green eggs, both derive from the Araucana."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Araucana

and...

"The development of the modern Araucana breed begins with the great Chilean breeder, Dr. Ruben Bustros. As a young man in the Chilean army, he encountered the Araucana Indians in remote areas and observed their unique types of chickens during the 1880’s. He returned later and obtained some of the Quetros and Collonocas stock. Crossing these two breeds, over many years he developed tufted, rumpless birds that laid blue eggs, the first Araucanas."

http://www.araucana.net/history/

I would love to learn the real story.

 

[Barredrocks24]

Trying to figure out if the one on the far left is a roo...

 

[debid]

The Chilean chickens were what was initially imported. But, they were a mixed bag of looks -- not the Araucana we know today (tufted/rumpless). The SOP we know was created and chickens bred to meet the standard. Ditto on the Ameraucana which came later and was the tailed and tuftless version eliminating the lethal genes demanded in the Araucana standard.