EDUCATIONAL INCUBATION & HATCHING CHAT THREAD, w/ Sally Sunshine Shipped Eggs

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shawluvsbirds said:
I always wondered what vegemite was.
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Farmer Connie said:
We get a butt load of spent grain from Bob's brewery buds. The wet stuff is the best. Spent yes but they drawl only the amount of liquid they need for the batch. We mostly get soaking wet grain. The wetness is the nutrients cooked out of it. And yes it smells good, I agree. We seal it up in air tight containers with O-Ring Gaskets. And it lasts a lot longer. ALTHOUGH we feed as a supplement ration not as a whole meal. It puts weight on a pig lickety split. Makes the Goats pointed hips go away and aids with Boo-koo egg production.
As long as we keep bartering eggs and pork chops to the beer guys, grain flows in for nuttin.
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Almost nuttin. Exploded a tire on the trailer just before Irma hit us. The grain is so heavy. Must of been 2000# that load. Serious weight..
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I have to beat the pig farmer there before it's put out. :lau
We call him TPF since he hasn't shared any of his pigs and I give the owner and the brewer eggs I get first dibs. Sneaky sure but a guys gotta do what he's gotta do right? It is extremely heavy even in five gallon containers. I go through 10 to 12 fives every two weeks. Been doing this for two years now. Oh and every now and then I get to try the brew. :yesss:

ETA a lady was feeding it to her sheep as the main source of food. Lost most of them. So it's a supplement only I agree. Probably 1/4 rationed
 
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In regards to ethanol from the other side of the coin...our low protein winter wheat (low nines) will be shipped out to the ethanol plant this week. The only requirements that were of concern was the bushel weight of 58 lbs, which it easily met. We'll be making approx. $.50 more per bushel there than any other market for feed or food. We have to ship father ahem...farther which will cost more per bushel to get it hauled...but we still come out ahead.

I find wet grain smells. Too bad most of you weren't closer in 2014. We had approximately 3 feet of soaked grain in our bins that everyone could have got for free...lol.

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They sludged all that out of the bins and it was dumped. It was no good to us, it would have molded and gotten infested with bugs.
 
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Farmer Connie said:
We get a butt load of spent grain from Bob's brewery buds. The wet stuff is the best. Spent yes but they drawl only the amount of liquid they need for the batch. We mostly get soaking wet grain. The wetness is the nutrients cooked out of it. And yes it smells good, I agree. We seal it up in air tight containers with O-Ring Gaskets. And it lasts a lot longer. ALTHOUGH we feed as a supplement ration not as a whole meal. It puts weight on a pig lickety split. Makes the Goats pointed hips go away and aids with Boo-koo egg production.
As long as we keep bartering eggs and pork chops to the beer guys, grain flows in for nuttin.
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Almost nuttin. Exploded a tire on the trailer just before Irma hit us. The grain is so heavy. Must of been 2000# that load. Serious weight..
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Agreed, for me the fermented feed is a weekly supplement, not a daily. When I used to feed it daily back when I first started keeping birds, I noticed they'd get the runs more often so I paired it back to once or twice a week and they seem much happier now.
 
duluthralphie said:
There are lots of claims but most are anti-science. It is hard to find a university published paper on it... The one I found a few years back said the only thing it might do is make the gut a little more hostile to parasites.

You drastically alter the nutritional values by fermenting. The sugars and starches become alcohol/more sugar. You change the fiber content. It makes more sense to stay with a feed you know the nutritional value of.


Fermented feeds came along with the ethanol industry, The refineries, had all this spent corn/grain and no way to get rid of it so they started pushing what a great feed it was. It is something but not the greatest feed.

Before you know it some pseudo farmers and ex-hippies decided it was the way to feed and it caught on, to the point the large energy companies could now sell the byproduct they could hardly give away in the past..

It is great marketing by the corporate giants!!

Of course, the DIY people came along and decided they could wet there feed and let it set for a few days and it would be the same as the stuff the refineries were selling....Now we have people nuts over a worthless feed that has altered nutrition and not for the better. Anytime there is heat (like in fermentation) something is burned up and nothing is added or gained...


Now, I will be back in a bit, I need to go get a electrocardiogram.
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Read this
https://academic.oup.com/ps/article/88/2/309/1562930/Effects-of-Bacillus-subtilis-var-natto-and

There is a different between Ethanol fermentation made but YEASTS AKA fungi, and lactic acid fermentation made by microbes.
 

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