Mislead by organic label?

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SHRanchHen

SHRanchHen

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I know someone that feeds her chickens organic food, but that is the extent of her going organic. Her chickens are free range so you know they are NOT just eating organic food. And to be truly organic there is SO much more that people go through to be able to use that label. However, she sells her eggs as "organic farm fresh eggs." I realize she is not claiming to be "certified organic" but this just seems to me to be misleading for the customer. Does anyone have thoughts on this?
 
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SHRanchHen said:
I know someone that feeds her chickens organic food, but that is the extent of her going organic. Her chickens are free range so you know they are NOT just eating organic food. And to be truly organic there is SO much more that people go through to be able to use that label. However, she sells her eggs as "organic farm fresh eggs." I reae is not claiming to be "certified organic" but this just seems to me to be misleading for the customer. Does anyone have thoughts on this?
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As far as I see free ranging is organic. granted the grass is natural occurring and not from a hopped up seed. How much closer to nature can you get than natural occurring grass?

Scott
 
Yeah...how is free ranging not organic? If you're pumping your lawn with chemical fertilizers...sure. I figure most of us free ranging are letting the birds do the fertilizing.
 
btw it is crazy what you have to do in MO to be able to sell eggs as gmo free. Organic too. feed from day 1. not have and gmo feed livestock ion your land for 3 years . That includes certain seeds for grass. I gave up on the gmo free title but my hens free range all day 365 ish days a year. the feeds organic and I'm small scale so the eggs are organic too.

Scott
 
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Yeah...how is free ranging not organic? If you're pumping your lawn with chemical fertilizers...sure. I figure most of us free ranging are letting the birds do the fertilizing.
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Well to my understanding, technically, to be organic your property cannot even have treated lumber in the ground. So it isn't just fertilizers and such, there is way more than just feed and wandering the pasture to be able to use the term organic.
 
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I know anything pressure treated with arsenic is a no-no, but I wasn't aware if that was the case for ACQ or anything else copper based. Maybe someone else can chime in on that. Back to the gist of your original post though... I wouldn't feel misled if someone is using a little ACQ lumber in their yard...CCA and creosote, maybe. I'd be more worried about using chemical pesticides in the lawn or garden. It kind of defeats the purpose of giving your birds organic feed if you're letting them free range in that stuff.
 
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I don't know if I agree. Our bird don't eat wood. pressure treated lumber does not use Arsenic anymore. but most post are set in concrete. and its in the ground. But heck what do I know I personally think that gmo free and organic is crud titles that Good old CA hyped up to the point it crossed the country. I live on 11 acres which used to be a cow field so when I dig I sometimes find old pieces of plows and such. I do not do anything to get grass to grow the field just fills itself in. I have since re reading Mo restriction last night have contacted my customers and explained the not mo standards for organic but I do use organic feed and the have the pasture so there just good eggs. No one seem to mind and most said well there organic which I assured them by MO standards there not. But there Farm fresh and eating good feed grass and bugs what more could you do to produce good eggs. Nothing as far as I am concerned.
Scott
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As far as I am concerned, my birds are as organic as they can get. We live in a natural forest and we do not use pesticides, herbicide or chemicals. The idea of growing our own hens to eat their eggs was to make sure we know what is in the food we eat, and we know we are not feeding them garbage. Even the hay we buy for the other animals are full of weeds so no herbicides there either. But we are not selling and we are not advertising either that they are organic. I am just satisfied with what we have.
 
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To be labeled organic they have to be certified (saying they're "organic but not certified organic" is deceiving... either they are or they aren't, the word organic is regulated). It's not enough to give them organic feed - even the land the chickens are ranging on must be certified organic. Your friend is asking for trouble if anyone reports them to the USDA as selling mislabeled eggs.
 

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