New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

Feeding Whole Corn - Page 2

post #11 of 14

 im planning on  feeding whole corn for the winter along with  the layer feed, whole corn is suppose to be better than cracked corn because its a whole  food ,    &  i dont need any kinds of   problems  in my flock , so whole corn it is..!! : ) :clap:thumbsup 


Edited by Diannastarr - 10/10/15 at 8:07pm
post #12 of 14
Quote:
Originally Posted by Diannastarr View Post
 

 im planning on  feeding whole corn for the winter along with  the layer feed, whole corn is suppose to be better than cracked corn because its a whole  food ,    &  i dont need any kinds of   problem in my flock , so whole corn it is..!! : ) :clap:thumbsup 

 

I'd skip any kind of corn and just feed a quality complete layer ration.  Adding corn will simply dilute the essential amino acids the birds will consume as well as the supplemental vitamins and minerals.


 

Reply


 

Reply
post #13 of 14

 there is no question about feeding a good quality layer feed , i would say that description can also mean a great quality  feed  you  can make your self  & then always feeding  free choice  24/7 , but from what i gather there is plenty of  cracked ground up corn in  most all chicken feeds& used as a filler,  but its a known fact that  whole  grains have a lot more nutrition & has  corn  oil  & starches  providing necessary food elements that provide energy  that helps to keep our birds  warm  then any cracked  grains ever will. our  free range flock has not had any problems from  our adding in more nutrition.  in fact adding in whole grains  has had a  positive effect & its certainly  a healthier  alternative , plus  adding  in whole Milo, wheat, oats, and other whole grains chia & flax seeds  is always a better idea  so I'm going to stick with whole corn seeds & grains. Besides whole corn is better, then cracked depleted  dried out old  dead corn, & the  benefit of feeding  whole  grains  is soooo much  better then  any cracked corn based scratch mixes, so why buy it..?  its just a waist of money knowing full well  cracked corn  has  no nutritional value , its not logical to purchase  some thing that  is  like  feeding  card board  or air  to our  birds, wile paying  the same price for cracked corn Vs  whole corn, so being  more careful  about  nutrition has payed off  for us,  its  the key  to our  healthy  productive birds & it certainly cant  hurt, we also feed vitamins & minerals so , we have no worries about any imbalances by adding in whole  grains  & our birds  are laying  even  more & larger  eggs now  then ever before as they  are  going into their  second  year & at the same time they are molting..!  so  its  true  whole  grains have a lot more nutritional value  that can help our birds  deal  with  the stress of  laying all those  giant  eggs every day  & again  why feed   junky old dead cracked  corn, it cost the same  compared to  whole corn , our  flock  has not had any  adverse affects from  our adding in more nutrition. so im going to stay with  whole corn & other  whole  grains & seeds  every  winter..!! plus  knowing  that  cracked corn  can lead to sour crop issues in pigeons, is a real concern & thank you   Teach97  for that information. :thumbsup 


Edited by Diannastarr - 10/10/15 at 10:51pm
post #14 of 14
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lazy J Farms Feed & Hay View Post
 

 

I'd skip any kind of corn and just feed a quality complete layer ration.  Adding corn will simply dilute the essential amino acids the birds will consume as well as the supplemental vitamins and minerals.

X2

 

Quote:
Originally Posted by Diannastarr View Post
 

 there is no question about feeding a good quality layer feed , i would say that description can also mean a great quality  feed  you  can make your self  & then always feeding  free choice  24/7 , but from what i gather there is plenty of  cracked ground up corn in  most all chicken feeds& used as a filler,  but its a known fact that  whole  grains have a lot more nutrition & has  corn  oil  & starches  providing necessary food elements that provide energy  that helps to keep our birds  warm  then any cracked  grains ever will. our  free range flock has not had any problems from  our adding in more nutrition.  in fact adding in whole grains  has had a  positive effect & its certainly  a healthier  alternative , plus  adding  in whole Milo, wheat, oats, and other whole grains chia & flax seeds  is always a better idea  so I'm going to stick with whole corn seeds & grains. Besides whole corn is better, then cracked depleted  dried out old  dead corn, & the  benefit of feeding  whole  grains  is soooo much  better then  any cracked corn based scratch mixes, so why buy it..?  its just a waist of money knowing full well  cracked corn  has  no nutritional value , its not logical to purchase  some thing that  is  like  feeding  card board  or air  to our  birds, wile paying  the same price for cracked corn Vs  whole corn, so being  more careful  about  nutrition has payed off  for us,  its  the key  to our  healthy  productive birds & it certainly cant  hurt, we also feed vitamins & minerals so , we have no worries about any imbalances by adding in whole  grains  & our birds  are laying  even  more & larger  eggs now  then ever before as they  are  going into their  second  year & at the same time they are molting..!  so  its  true  whole  grains have a lot more nutritional value  that can help our birds  deal  with  the stress of  laying all those  giant  eggs every day  & again  why feed   junky old dead cracked  corn, it cost the same  compared to  whole corn , our  flock  has not had any  adverse affects from  our adding in more nutrition. so im going to stay with  whole corn & other  whole  grains & seeds  every  winter..!! plus  knowing  that  cracked corn  can lead to sour crop issues in pigeons, is a real concern & thank you   Teach97  for that information. :thumbsup 

 

It is true that once ground or cracked, seeds of any kind will lose their nutritional value, primarily the vitamins will slowly degrade but it isn't instantaneous. Corn cracked yesterday is just as nutritious as whole corn. Corn cracked 6 months ago is a different story.

While corn by itself isn't extremely nutritious and wouldn't serve as the sole ingredient in a ration, it is NOT a filler. First of all, corn is the easiest grain for chickens to digest.

Every ingredient in chicken feed has a nutritional purpose for being there based on well over a hundred years of poultry nutrition research.

Corn is the main ingredient in most feeds made in North America and to a lesser extent other continents because it is a relatively inexpensive option to provide the nutrients it offers. The need for metabolizable energy in a feedstuff should not be underestimated. If fed free choice, birds tend to eat to satisfy their energy needs

In addition to energy, corn provides a fair amount of the necessary quantities of zinc, iron, phosphorus, manganese, selenium, vitamins B6, thiamine and niacin

It only contains about 8% crude protein but is not devoid of essential amino acids. Corn contains a fair amount of leucine, alanine, glutamic acid, proline and valine.

Other feed ingredients like legumes and synthetic AAs supplement other essential amino acids.

 

Yellow corn in N. America also provides the pigment xanthophyll, which enhances the yellow color of egg yolks.

 

So while it isn't particularly nutritious or a complete food by any stretch of the imagination, corn isn't devoid of nutrition.

I think many people tend to generalize about whether something is good or bad in absolute terms. Most things belong more in the grey area.

NPIP 43-813

“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts.

Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime.”                  Mark Twain

Reply

NPIP 43-813

“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts.

Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime.”                  Mark Twain

Reply
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: Feeding & Watering Your Flock