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post #1 of 18
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Hi, I just got 4 kacki campbell ducklings and  I read that ducks tend to be niacin deficiant and was wondering how I would supplement them? And where I would buy the niacin, how much I should give them, etc??

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post #2 of 18

Dont over think it. Is there a problem with them ?

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post #3 of 18
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well one of them has sort of sprained her ankle, she is hobbling on it... They are eating chick feed because i also have chicks...

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post #4 of 18

That could happen from many issues. Just dont over think it and you will be fine.

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post #5 of 18
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Originally Posted by OpalRaven7 

well one of them has sort of sprained her ankle, she is hobbling on it... They are eating chick feed because i also have chicks...


male sure it is UN medicated!!! medicated is very bad for ducklings

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Originally Posted by lamike 

Dont over think it. Is there a problem with them ?


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Many people supplement their ducklings unnecessarily.  Chick feed does contain niacin - ducklings eat more feed than chicks and with a balanced diet including fresh greens and free ranging they can often have an extremely well balanced diet without the need for supplementation.

Medicated feed containing Amprolium is safe for consumption by waterfowl.

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post #7 of 18
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The chick feed is unmedicated. That is the only food they are getting right now, when they grow up they can go outside and forage with the rest of the ducks and chickens in addition to getting feed.

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post #8 of 18

I have raised hundreds of ducks.....and  have never supplemented their niacin.  They have all been fine.

post #9 of 18

Everyone's experience is different, but if you're having leg problems niacin is an excellent first step in treatment--even if it doesn't solve the problem, it won't hurt, and higher niacin in general supports good leg health in ducklings (but not too high--you can overdose--details below). I do not mean to criticize those who do fine without niacin, but I will say that I have also raised hundreds of ducklings and on the one occasion when I decided not to bother with the extra niacin, the birds developed leg problems which were quickly corrected by adding back the correct amount of niacin. And it is not just me. The most-respected waterfowl expert in the nation, Dave Holderread, also recommends higher niacin for ducklings.

You have several options for accomplishing this:

1. Mix the chick feed 50/50 with game bird starter. The game bird starter contains high levels of niacin, but also levels of protein that are too high. By mixing the two, you balance it just about right for waterfowl. This is what I do because it is simple and effective.

2. Add brewer's yeast to the feed. This is also simple, IF you can find brewer's yeast (try health food stores or beer making supply if your town has one). Just sprinkle it on top of their food. You can't overdose on brewer's yeast.

3. Add niacin directly to their water. Buy niacin at the pharmacy, try to get the NON-flush-free, and also NON-time-release (this gets harder and harder to find). You need it in gel caps because you're going to break the gel cap into the water and dissolve the contents in the water. Don't worry if it doesn't all dissolve--I've found it's quite effective even if there are still bits of it settling on the bottom. The dosage is about 100 mg per gallon of water. It doesn't have to be precise, but don't overdo it.

4. Feed them Purina Flock Raiser. I have had mixed results with this among people I've talked to, but it is recommended by Dave Holderread and he is rarely wrong, so it's definitely a potentially viable option. If you end up with niacin deficiency anyway, you can always add in extra by one of the other means.

Niacin deficiency, when caught early, is easily corrected by adding the correct amount of niacin. Of course, if you're raising lots of birds, it's way easier just to prevent it to begin with, plus birds thrive best when provided the proper nutrients, even if a deficiency isn't clearly visible. If niacin deficiency symptoms are allowed to persist without correction, they can develop into permanent debilities.

Good luck with your babies. It's quite possible her ankle problem is NOT caused by niacin deficiency (in fact, niacin deficiency usually causes a generalized weakness and shakiness in the legs rather than location-specific distress), but the proper quantities of niacin will help develop leg strength which may aid in her healing.

I hope she does great for you. smile

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post #10 of 18
Can I feed my ducklings anything else but there starter food when they are only a week old?
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