Capillaria eggs...dosing for Safeguard 10% liquid form needed

We have 13 hens...one was acting off..very listless ,had a very messy bottom of green poo..isolated her and had her poo and poo from the hen house tested...the sickly hen showed a high count of capillaria eggs...the samples I took from the hen house showed some capillaria eggs but much less than the sick hen.

Realize we need to deworm all of them..keeping the sick hen isolated..she eats like mad but is very skinny..assuming from the worms..

Was advised to get panacur but have since read the liquid safeguard 10% (used for cattle and goats) is the same thing (fenbendazole) and can be used..just having a hard time finding dosing info for chickens..i already have the safeguard and would like to use that than bother the vet by asking for a prescription .

Can you please share your experience and advice using safeguard liquid on chickens? would be .greatly appreciated!


Thanks!

I have heard of others using it without problem though I have never had to use it myself.

Here is some info about dosage, hope it helps you... Good luck!

http://msucares.com/poultry/diseases/solutions.html
excerpt:
PARASITE (INTERNAL) SOLUTIONS

The following treatments have been shown to be effective for eliminating internal parasites from poultry and game birds. Neither of these drugs (fenbendazole or leviamisole) has been approved for use by FDA, so the producer accepts all responsibility for their use. Both drugs have been very effective if used properly and will eliminate most types of internal parasites that affect birds. Caution: Do not use with birds producing eggs or meat destined for human consumption.

Fenbendazole Treatments

One-day Treatment

1 oz Safeguard or Panacur per 15-20 lb feed

Dissolve the fenbendazole product in one cup of water. Mix this solution well into the feed and give to the birds as their only feed source for one day. When completely consumed, untreated feed can be given. Be sure that the commercial medication contains 10% fenbendazole.

Safeguard is a product of Ralston Purina, and Panacur is a product marketed by American Hoechst. One ounce of medication will treat about 1000 10-oz bobwhite quail. Adjustments of the amounts of medication and feed needed may be necessary depending on the number and size of the birds.

Three-Day Treatment

1.2 oz Safeguard or Panacur in 100 lb feed
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4 oz pkt of "Worm-A-Rest Litter Pack" (Ralston Purina) in 50 lb feed
-or-
5 lb bag of "Worm-A-Rest Mix Pack" in 495 lb feed

Feed all the medicated feeds free-choice for three consecutive days. The feed mixtures provide 75 ppm fenbendazole. Quail will receive about 1.7 mg/bird each day for adult birds or 2.75 mg/lb of bodyweight.

Fenbendazole has been shown to be a very effective treatment for eliminating Capillaria (capillary worms), Heterakis (cecal worms), Ascaridia (roundworms), and Syngamus spp. (gapeworms). Toxicity from overdosing with fenbendazole is very remote. Research indicates that amounts up to 100 times the recommended dosages have been given under research conditions without adverse effects to the birds. Use of this product during molt, however, may cause deformity of the emerging feathers.

Lorene97 said:

We have 13 hens...one was acting off..very listless ,had a very messy bottom of green poo..isolated her and had her poo and poo from the hen house tested...the sickly hen showed a high count of capillaria eggs...the samples I took from the hen house showed some capillaria eggs but much less than the sick hen.

Realize we need to deworm all of them..keeping the sick hen isolated..she eats like mad but is very skinny..assuming from the worms..

Was advised to get panacur but have since read the liquid safeguard 10% (used for cattle and goats) is the same thing (fenbendazole) and can be used..just having a hard time finding dosing info for chickens..i already have the safeguard and would like to use that than bother the vet by asking for a prescription .

Can you please share your experience and advice using safeguard liquid on chickens? would be .greatly appreciated!


Thanks!

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Keep in mind that wormers will not kill eggs, but will kill larva after hatching (and adults.) This is why it's always recommended to do a second worming after the initial dosing and before the larva reach aduIt size. I use Safeguard liquid goat wormer as well. Use a syringe without a needle and administer orally undiluted. Pull the wattles down and the mouth will open, squirt the liquid in the mouth and immediately release the wattles so that they can swallow it. Dosage is 1cc for giants, 3/4cc for large fowl, 1/2cc for standards, 1/4cc for smaller birds. Redose again in 8-10 days. There's a 14 day withdrawal period after the last dosing.

dawg53 said:

Keep in mind that wormers will not kill eggs, but will kill larva after hatching (and adults.) This is why it's always recommended to do a second worming after the initial dosing and before the larva reach aduIt size. I use Safeguard liquid goat wormer as well. Use a syringe without a needle and administer orally undiluted. Pull the wattles down and the mouth will open, squirt the liquid in the mouth and immediately release the wattles so that they can swallow it. Dosage is 1cc for giants, 3/4cc for large fowl, 1/2cc for standards, 1/4cc for smaller birds. Redose again in 8-10 days. There's a 14 day withdrawal period after the last dosing.

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Dawg knows what he's talking about. Don't waste time and money by diluting the medicine in water or food.

This is my first time posting on BYC and I've been treating my chickens for worms. I noticied my bantam cochin had capillaria worms and safeguard for goats worked for her. After 5 days she was back to normal herself walking around and eating. I ended up treating my whole flock of 15 chickens simultaneously although no one else showed worms in their poop. A week after the 24 day treatment period, I noticed another chicken had tapeworms. I'm treating again with safeguard but I just ordered valbazen because I am very doubtful it will work for tapeworms based on alot of other experiences I've read here. Safeguard does say it works for tapeworms but I can't believe they picked that up tapes so quickly after I completed a 24 day treatment period! I'm very nervous about over treating with the dewormers so any advice people can share that would be awesome!

Sam Binkley said:

This is my first time posting on BYC and I've been treating my chickens for worms. I noticied my bantam cochin had capillaria worms and safeguard for goats worked for her. After 5 days she was back to normal herself walking around and eating. I ended up treating my whole flock of 15 chickens simultaneously although no one else showed worms in their poop. A week after the 24 day treatment period, I noticed another chicken had tapeworms. I'm treating again with safeguard but I just ordered valbazen because I am very doubtful it will work for tapeworms based on alot of other experiences I've read here. Safeguard does say it works for tapeworms but I can't believe they picked that up tapes so quickly after I completed a 24 day treatment period! I'm very nervous about over treating with the dewormers so any advice people can share that would be awesome!

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You'll have to do several dosings of valbazen to get rid of tapes, safeguard wont kill them. It would be best to isolate the hen(s) that have the tapes. Withhold their feed for 24 hours, then give them 3/4cc valbazen. Withhold feed on the 5th day and redose 3/4cc on the 6th day. If that doesnt get rid of the tapes, repeat one more dosing in 5-6 days.
Tapeworms are tough to get rid of, I've dealt with them.

Thank you so much for this advice. I will wait for the Valbazen and begin treatment and let you know how it goes!

dawg53 said:

Keep in mind that wormers will not kill eggs, but will kill larva after hatching (and adults.) This is why it's always recommended to do a second worming after the initial dosing and before the larva reach aduIt size. I use Safeguard liquid goat wormer as well. Use a syringe without a needle and administer orally undiluted. Pull the wattles down and the mouth will open, squirt the liquid in the mouth and immediately release the wattles so that they can swallow it. Dosage is 1cc for giants, 3/4cc for large fowl, 1/2cc for standards, 1/4cc for smaller birds. Redose again in 8-10 days. There's a 14 day withdrawal period after the last dosing.

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Thankyou Dawg for this info!

Hi all, i read all the worming information, i recently got seven hens, not sure of the breed, but i think they are a mix of RIR and another bird? anyhow- after four weeks, only a couple of eggs a week, they are 20 months old, and the original owner had them in a tiny little pen, way over crowded, and to me they seemed unhealthy, they got Dumor laying mash , and he put sand in - i added omega feed by purina, and oyster shells, and a multi supplement to their food, but they still seem thin, SO i just had safeguard/liquid suspension, and gave each hen 1cc in a small amount of cat food, tried bread but they wouldnt eat it- I added Meow mix and they hogged it down no problem, i just let one at a time out and handed it to them,, should i continue for two more days? or is that enough ? I can't prove they have worms, but the original owner never wormed them, they were out on his lawn and then back in a tiny little cage-- i mean two foot by three foot size, for seven good sized hens, I put fake eggs in the nest to see if they were eating their own eggs as well.. one had what looked like a "rubber" egg and i saw the others eat it .. any input?

also , can you use ivermectin with Praziquatal in chickens? I have horses and know all about them, chickens -- i know nothing.. but i do know what the horse wormers control on horses..

LOL, just saw i was a "new Egg.. i wish i HAD a new egg!