Peafowl Genetics for Dummies (in other words us)

I was visiting a local peafowl breeder yesterday. A few years ago I traded with him to get his beautiful pied peacock who I named Dragon. What I traded was what I thought was a "dark pied" peahen from another breeder that I had just picked up along with a pied peahen (Damsel) that I kept. Well, he has been keeping the dark pied in with his pied and says he is not getting pieds from them so now I feel bad for giving him the wrong thing.

Just now I thought of how stupid it was that I never thought to tell him to put one of his white peahens in with the pied male to get whites and pieds! BUT, what I am unsure of now is that he told me if he breeds an India Blue to one of his whites, he gets blackshoulders. That must mean his whites are blackshoulder whites or would that be split to blackshoulder whites? Anyways if he breeds one of those whites to the pied peacock, would he still get pieds and whites even if the white is also split to blackshoulder? I am guessing yes, but I didn't want to tell him something I was unshure about.

So a white peafowl split to blackshoulder X a IB pied = 50% white and 50% pied correct??
Yes.
 
Thank you I need to call Bird Man and tell him to move one of his white hens next door to the pied pen! I am sure he will be happy to know he won't need a new bird to get pieds. Eventually I will upload some photos I took of his birds in another topic...
 
I think I am getting a pretty good handle on pea genetics, but I would like to clarify one thing. If I have a purple chick out a dark pied male and purple females this chick would be split pied, correct (assuming the females aren't split to anything unknown)? Then, this chick would produce 50% pieds and 50% split to white if bred to a white bird, correct? Finally, if bred to another pied, would it produce 25% split white, 25% split pied, 25% dark pied, and 25% pied? It seems that the most people discuss breeding pied to pied or white, rather than what would happen if they are bred to regular colored birds. I would just like to make sure I understand the combination of genes correctly. Thanks.
 
I think I am getting a pretty good handle on pea genetics, but I would like to clarify one thing. If I have a purple chick out a dark pied male and purple females this chick would be split pied, correct (assuming the females aren't split to anything unknown)? YES

Then, this chick would produce 50% pieds and 50% split to white if bred to a white bird, correct? YES

Finally, if bred to another pied, would it produce 25% split white, 25% split pied, 25% dark pied, and 25% pied? YES

It seems that the most people discuss breeding pied to pied or white, rather than what would happen if they are bred to regular colored birds. I would just like to make sure I understand the combination of genes correctly. Thanks. Congratulations! You pass the exam!
See above.
 
See above.

Thanks! I knew I liked genetics...
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Hannah.. I assume that you knew that the dark pied male was split to purple.? You cannot get purple chicks from purple hens unless you have purple in the male side. If I understand correctly your concerns is mostly about pied but the sexes of the purple mating's will have some effect on colors. my 2 cents ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, connerhills
 
Hannah.. I assume that you knew that the dark pied male was split to purple.?  You cannot get purple chicks from purple hens unless you have purple in the male side. If I understand correctly your concerns is mostly about pied  but the sexes of the purple mating's will have some  effect on colors.                    my 2 cents          ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,  connerhills


Sorry, I was not clear. The male is also purple, dark pied purple. I should have been more clear about that. Thank you.
 
I was assuming you were only concerned with discussing patterns, not colors since you dropped the purple reference after the first part.


Yeah, I definitely should have been more clear. I was only really asking about the patterns. Both parents are purple, so I know that the chicks should be purple as well. Sorry for the confusion!
 
Can someone please explain to me what a purple black shoulder split to pied would look like? Would it look like a regular purple black shoulder or have white feathers also?
 
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