- Jul 1, 2012
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Hey all... some important information to share about crop bound capsules from Twin City Poultry Supplies.
I had a hen that impacted (we just did surgery today after no success with supportive care). I did research and found a product called H-6-3 from TCPS. Only people who seem to carry it. I ordered 2 vials of it (50 capsules) to have some on hand for future use. To get it shipped next day cost me a total of $45 for the shipping and meds combined. Seemed a bit much, but if it worked and I could avoid surgery, fine.
I became suspicious that all was not kosher when I got the vials. The capsules came in dram vials with just a general label, no drug name, no mg dosage, and sketchy directions etc on the label.
Upon further research, I have come to find out that these are probably just Docusate Sodium capsules (Colace) that you can get OTC at any pharmacy. If you can find the 50mg get those, otherwise the 100mg are fine for most average weight birds. A call to the company to get the information about the drug name and strength did not produce the information. All she would tell me is it's a stool softener. Still waiting for a call back from someone named "Victor."
The issue I have is that TCPS is probably buying these in bulk and dispensing them as a pharmacy, which they are not, according to the National Board of Pharmacy. I am in contact with the boards of pharmacy in Ohio and Georgia to verify this.
To my knowledge at this point, when dispensing in dram vials there are very clear rules about the information that is to be on the label. To be safe, save money, and have access more quickly when you find a sick bird, just get it OTC and keep it in the med box. And of course check with your vet first before deciding to use a drug off label.
Best I can tell since this is an off label use, dosing is 1 capsule, (make sure chicken is drinking as colace draws fluid from the gut), repeat if needed every other day. However, if there is no improvement within a few days you need to see a vet. It's a stool softener so is supposed to soften up a hard impaction.
Warning: Contraindicated with use of mineral oil. Docusate sodium can cause toxicity with mineral oil in the GI tract. Also, I do not know if there are any issues with giving this to meat or egg birds and if there is any withdrawal time before meat and eggs can be consumed.
How to pill a chicken. Toss the capsule on the floor in front of the bird or offer it from your hand. Most will just fiddle with it for a sec and then gulp it down. Otherwise you can use a small piller and pop it down.
Please use caution when using these. I haven't found much info about using it in chickens. My biggest fear is that people will use these thinking its a cure-all and wait too long to get help for the bird. Surgery on a weak bird will likely be fatal, so make your decisions swiftly.
I had a hen that impacted (we just did surgery today after no success with supportive care). I did research and found a product called H-6-3 from TCPS. Only people who seem to carry it. I ordered 2 vials of it (50 capsules) to have some on hand for future use. To get it shipped next day cost me a total of $45 for the shipping and meds combined. Seemed a bit much, but if it worked and I could avoid surgery, fine.
I became suspicious that all was not kosher when I got the vials. The capsules came in dram vials with just a general label, no drug name, no mg dosage, and sketchy directions etc on the label.
Upon further research, I have come to find out that these are probably just Docusate Sodium capsules (Colace) that you can get OTC at any pharmacy. If you can find the 50mg get those, otherwise the 100mg are fine for most average weight birds. A call to the company to get the information about the drug name and strength did not produce the information. All she would tell me is it's a stool softener. Still waiting for a call back from someone named "Victor."
The issue I have is that TCPS is probably buying these in bulk and dispensing them as a pharmacy, which they are not, according to the National Board of Pharmacy. I am in contact with the boards of pharmacy in Ohio and Georgia to verify this.
To my knowledge at this point, when dispensing in dram vials there are very clear rules about the information that is to be on the label. To be safe, save money, and have access more quickly when you find a sick bird, just get it OTC and keep it in the med box. And of course check with your vet first before deciding to use a drug off label.
Best I can tell since this is an off label use, dosing is 1 capsule, (make sure chicken is drinking as colace draws fluid from the gut), repeat if needed every other day. However, if there is no improvement within a few days you need to see a vet. It's a stool softener so is supposed to soften up a hard impaction.
Warning: Contraindicated with use of mineral oil. Docusate sodium can cause toxicity with mineral oil in the GI tract. Also, I do not know if there are any issues with giving this to meat or egg birds and if there is any withdrawal time before meat and eggs can be consumed.
How to pill a chicken. Toss the capsule on the floor in front of the bird or offer it from your hand. Most will just fiddle with it for a sec and then gulp it down. Otherwise you can use a small piller and pop it down.
Please use caution when using these. I haven't found much info about using it in chickens. My biggest fear is that people will use these thinking its a cure-all and wait too long to get help for the bird. Surgery on a weak bird will likely be fatal, so make your decisions swiftly.
