➡I accidentally bought Balut eggs: 2 live ducks! Now a Chat Thread!

[dpenning]

I'm going to get my third bad tomorrow. I didn't keep track of this second bag good enough. I was using it to mix in with my molting hens regular feed to.

I only used the Bryant for the quail, used layer for the rest of the flock.

 

[littleprairieheartsfarm]

I'm going to get my third bad tomorrow. I didn't keep track of this second bag good enough. I was using it to mix in with my molting hens regular feed to.

What’s the reasoning for quail needing the gamebird feed? Got to start my research for them now.

 

[Molpet]

What’s the reasoning for quail needing the gamebird feed? Got to start my research for them now.

They need high protein.. like turkeys

 

[littleprairieheartsfarm]

They need high protein.. like turkeys

I know they need the high protein, but what about them makes that a requirement? For such small birds? I’ve been reading different published studies, and so far the only effects of the lower protein levels are delayed egg-laying which isn’t a major side effect to us.

 

[GoldenChooks]

One quail is hatched and nine more have externally piped

I know they need the high protein, but what about them makes that a requirement? For such small birds? I’ve been reading different published studies, and so far the only effects of the lower protein levels are delayed egg-laying which isn’t a major side effect to us.

I think that it's because the chicks grow so fast that they need high protein but not sure about why the adults still need higher protein then, for example, chickens

 

[R2elk]

I know they need the high protein, but what about them makes that a requirement? For such small birds? I’ve been reading different published studies, and so far the only effects of the lower protein levels are delayed egg-laying which isn’t a major side effect to us.

They need the gamebird feed for the higher protein and the higher levels of lysine, methionine and niacin that are not found in chicken feed or chicken starter. The gamebird starter is critical for proper development of the quail chicks.

Protein requirement of Japanese Quail

"Four crude protein levels (20, 22, 24 and 26%) were evaluated for Japanese quails and it was concluded that after lysine and methionine + cystine requirements were met, 20% crude protein level resulted in best performance from 1 to 42 days of age (Murakami et al., 1993a)."

The problem here being that the lower protein feeds that are available do not have the necessary levels of lysine, methionine and cystine. It isn't all about the protein level.

 

[littleprairieheartsfarm]

They need the gamebird feed for the higher protein and the higher levels of lysine, methionine and niacin that are not found in chicken feed or chicken starter. The gamebird starter is critical for proper development of the quail chicks.

Protein requirement of Japanese Quail

"Four crude protein levels (20, 22, 24 and 26%) were evaluated for Japanese quails and it was concluded that after lysine and methionine + cystine requirements were met, 20% crude protein level resulted in best performance from 1 to 42 days of age (Murakami et al., 1993a)."

The problem here being that the lower protein feeds that are available do not have the necessary levels of lysine, methionine and cystine. It isn't all about the protein level.

One quail is hatched and nine more have externally piped

I think that it's because the chicks grow so fast that they need high protein but not sure about why the adults still need higher protein then, for example, chickens

Thank you both! That was exactly what I was looking for.

 

[Kiki]

I am trying to find the lighting stuff I thought I saved.

I found these so far and neither are the one I am thinking of.

https://www.uaex.edu/publications/PDF/FSA-8005.pdf

http://web.uconn.edu/poultry/poultrypages/light_inset.html

http://www.thepoultrysite.com/articles/452/lighting-for-poultry-housing/

 

[littleprairieheartsfarm]

I am trying to find the lighting stuff I thought I saved.

I found these so far and neither are the one I am thinking of.

https://www.uaex.edu/publications/PDF/FSA-8005.pdf

http://web.uconn.edu/poultry/poultrypages/light_inset.html

http://www.thepoultrysite.com/articles/452/lighting-for-poultry-housing/

Interesting articles.

 

[The Farmers' Daughter]

I know I read about them.
I think it's really cool that Canada has its own native breed, so to speak.

There's a strain of Bresse called Canadian as well.