Blue Copper and Splash Copper Marans Discussion

[jbruner51]

Also I have 2 EE hens that I've had for about a year now. If I hatch their eggs with them being fertilized by a Blue Copper Marans what would be the outcome?

 

[jbruner51]

They don't seem to have ameracauna genes. I think they just need some work on bringing them up to the standard. They don't have to be perfect if they are going to be egg layers and not really used for show. I would just work on egg size, egg color and body type if for backyard egg layers. 

What is the body type for backyard layers and how do you breed for that?

 

[FVRM]

What is the body type for backyard layers and how do you breed for that?

Well, there is the body type stablished by the APA for the copper maran breed that you can read here http://maranschickenclubusa.com/Varieties.html. And most everyone here agrees that better egg layers usually have more space between the legs/ bigger hip bones.

 

[FVRM]

Also I have 2 EE hens that I've had for about a year now. If I hatch their eggs with them being fertilized by a Blue Copper Marans what would be the outcome?

Olive eggers

 

[jbruner51]

Olive eggers

Man that'd be a pretty egg basket with all those eggs from three different breeds.

 

[DMRippy]

Also, you might not want to use that splash with white legs. Marans have blue/black legs

Actually Splash birds do have white legs..... I don't know the genetics behind it but they should look more like cuckoo marans legs. The correct term is slate color.

 

[DMRippy]

Quote: If Snowbird thinks they are mixed odds are pretty good he is right. It is VERY hard to tell Olive Egger apart from Marans.... trust me if they lose a leg band you can't tell them apart.... I would just sell them as pullets if I couldn't tell them apart. Olive Egger can have straight combs too and feathered legs and if you are lucky muffs and beards but if they don't they look like Marans when they are younger. UNLESS you have the eye that Don has.

 

[FVRM]

Actually Splash birds do have white legs..... I don't know the genetics behind it but they should look more like cuckoo marans legs. The correct term is slate color.

That splash has too much white, feathers and all. Even the legs seem to be almost pink like a buff orpington's. Maybe it's still too young and will darken with age. I guess different bloodlines have different shades of darkness on the splash. I said blue/black because not a lot of people know what the color "slate" means when it comes to chicken legs.

 

[DMRippy]

I don't have splash and I don't breed for it usually but I am 98% sure I am right. The legs on the pics you posted look wrong.... pink would be ok since the blood would be showing through. The bottom picture looks correct.

This is a Cuckoo Marans leg


This is a Splash Copper marans I know his legs were white



This is a splash with one copy of the barring gene.... white legs



Same cockerel as above with white legs.

 

[snowbird]

Donna, I believe that Walt said the Splash would be required to have Slate colored legs Now the matings they are from will determine the leg color. If they are from BC, Blue Copper or Splash they should have Slate with a little ping between the scales. This was asked of Walt a year or so ago and he said they would have to be Slate standard . Don