Help! Elector psp alternative?????

[HeatherTheMommy]

My flock has either mites or lice including the 4 day old babies and mama hen. Elector psp is sooo expensive but my husband found something similar with the same ingredient. Can I use this????? Anyone ever try it????

Bonide 252 16 oz Captain Jacks Dead Bug Brew Concentrate https://www.amazon.com/dp/B001VJBYMC/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_Lxs3xb7C0Y0HA

 

[Wyorp Rock]

You received good advice from @casportpony on your other thread. Poultry dust with permethrin would be your best treatment option.

https://www.backyardchickens.com/t/1133617/help-lice-or-mites-on-mama-hen-and-babies

 

[lizgarf]

Bonide 252 16 oz Captain Jacks Dead Bug Brew Concentrate https://www.amazon.com/dp/B001VJBYMC/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_Lxs3xb7C0Y0HA[/QUOTE]
Did you ever try this? Did it work?

 

[casportpony]

Bonide 252 16 oz Captain Jacks Dead Bug Brew Concentrate https://www.amazon.com/dp/B001VJBYMC/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_Lxs3xb7C0Y0HA

Did you ever try this? Did it work?[/QUOTE]
If you decide to use that it needs to be mixed as follows:
757 ml Captain Jack's and 3028 ml water.

 

[lizgarf]

Thanks! Is that for the .05% spinosad dilution? I bought a spray bottle with .01% of the spinosad, which sounds like it'd be pretty close to the dilution you suggest, if it's the .05%.

 

[casportpony]

Thanks! Is that for the .05% spinosad dilution? I bought a spray bottle with .01% of the spinosad, which sounds like it'd be pretty close to the dilution you suggest, if it's the .05%.

Which one did you get?

 

[casportpony]

If you bought the ready to use spray it's not strong enough.

 

[casportpony]

There is a reason Elector PSP is so expensive, it's because it's highly concentrated.
Is this what you bought? This is 0.001%, you need a final dilution that's 0.1%

 

[casportpony]

Elector PSP is 44.2% = 442 mg spinosad per one ml
Captain Jack's 0.5% = 50 mg spinosad per 1 ml
Captain Jack's Ready to use 0.001% = 0.1 mg per 1 ml

Elector says to mix 8.9 ml to one gallon. 8.9 x 442 mg = 3933 mg per gallon

Does this make sense?

 

[lizgarf]

I bought the .01% spray; but I did it after figuring out the dilution you had recommended was about 1:4, and .01 is 1:5 of .05, and that seemed close enough! Yeah, I did the math earlier with Elector PSP's concentration, and you're correct that it's hugely more concentrated - about 1000 times! But, since you only need to use 2 tsp once, it seems overkill to buy it and keep it around. I'll try this and see how it goes. Personally, I'd rather err on too dilute, as I also keep bees (though I read that the bees should be fine if don't come in contact with product within 3 hours of application.
But, I have another question: My mite infestation was quite bad. I applied a bunch of DE and also gave some of the birds some drops of my cat's "Revolution" two nights ago, before reading about spinosad. I saw significantly fewer mites today. Should I wait before applying the Captain Jack's, or go ahead and give it a try, since I am doubtful I could have eradicated them and I really don't want them biting me anymore, let alone the chickens?!