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[Jessimom]

How warm is your brooder?

-Kathy

They have a premier 1 heat plate and they are in our enclosed, heat/ac, insulated converted porch. Room doent get colder than 65, but can get warm during the day. They have plenty of room to get out from under the heat plate.

 

[casportpony]

DOn't want to scare either of you but @Fire Ant Farm
 and @Jessimom

 you may want to read up on Marek's just to be able to hopefully rule it out

http://www.thepoultrysite.com/diseaseinfo/90/mareks-disease/

That's what I am afraid of. Yesterday I dropped my bird off to be necropsied. They are sending it to UC Davis. Waiting is tough.

Both seem a little too young for Marek's, but I could be wrong.

-Kathy

 

[Fire Ant Farm]

DOn't want to scare either of you but @Fire Ant Farm and @Jessimom
you may want to read up on Marek's just to be able to hopefully rule it out

http://www.thepoultrysite.com/diseaseinfo/90/mareks-disease/

Quote:
I actually already know I have Marek's on my property, and lost a laying pullet it it earlier this year. I know that I will be breeding for resistance in all my chickens here, but would not have thought it would begin to take them down at 1 week old. I'll need to go take a look a the big Mareks thread again. @casportpony , any ideas/thoughts?

@daxigait , The chick was running around like normal earlier - ligaments look fine.

I'm off to go read some more and make up some amphoral water for cocci for everyone.

- Ant Farm

 

[DwayneNLiz]

Here's another site for nervous conditions in chickens

http://www.nda.agric.za/docs/nervous/

@Fire Ant Farm
@Jessimom

 

[casportpony]

How warm is your brooder?

-Kathy

They have a premier 1 heat plate and they are in our enclosed, heat/ac, insulated converted porch. Room doent get colder than 65, but can get warm during the day. They have plenty of room to get out from under the heat plate.

The sick one will do better if it's in a brooder that 85.

-Kathy

 

[casportpony]

DOn't want to scare either of you but @Fire Ant Farm and @Jessimom you may want to read up on Marek's just to be able to hopefully rule it out http://www.thepoultrysite.com/diseaseinfo/90/mareks-disease/

I got some relatively good sleep last night, and was still sore this AM, but tried to do some stretching to see if it's that. We'll see. Meanwhile, I was checking on the baby chicks, and I found a German New Hampshire hunkered under the MHP that just didn't look right from what I could see, so I pulled it out, and it seems to have some sort of paralysis-ish thing going on - can't stand, legs curled under it, a wing out to one side. Also had a wet bottom like it was having watery diarrhea. They are 1.5 weeks old, all other chicks ridiculously healthy/rambunctious. I removed him, wiped his bottom (wasn't much actual poop, must be very watery), gave him some Sav-A-Chick (essentially dipped his beak and he swallowed), and put him in a separate mini brooder under another heating pad to keep warm. Just now I made him some scrambled eggs and tried to see if he would eat a tiny bit, but he wouldn't. He did make a little more effort in drinking when I dipped his beak again, but he doesn't look very good. You can see in the pics on the paper towel that he is pooping almost pure water. These were all healthy chicks form a reputable breeder with healthy chickens in a closed flock. They arrived doing well and were put in a clean new brooder, given a little nutridrench on day of arrival, then just filtered water and Dumor 20% chick starter. I'd like to save him if I can, but if not, I definitely want to know if there's something that I should be concerned about for the other chicks (and also to know for the future). I'm considering treating for cocci, but the not being able to get around thing is a little new to me for cocci. Ideas? @casportpony - Ant Farm

did you check the ligaments at the hock?

I actually already know I have Marek's on my property, and lost a laying pullet it it earlier this year. I know that I will be breeding for resistance in all my chickens here, but would not have thought it would begin to take them down at 1 week old. I'll need to go take a look a the big Mareks thread again. @casportpony , any ideas/thoughts? @daxigait , The chick was running around like normal earlier - ligaments look fine. I'm off to go read some more and make up some amphoral water for cocci for everyone. - Ant Farm

I have Marek's, and never see it in any until they are older. Do you have Corid powder or liquid? -Kathy

 

[Jessimom]

The sick one will do better if it's in a brooder that 85.

-Kathy

ok inside she comes.

 

[Fire Ant Farm]

Quote:
I actually already know I have Marek's on my property, and lost a laying pullet it it earlier this year. I know that I will be breeding for resistance in all my chickens here, but would not have thought it would begin to take them down at 1 week old. I'll need to go take a look a the big Mareks thread again. @casportpony
, any ideas/thoughts?

@daxigait
, The chick was running around like normal earlier - ligaments look fine.

I'm off to go read some more and make up some amphoral water for cocci for everyone.

- Ant Farm

I have Marek's, and never see it in any until they are older. Do you have Corid powder or liquid?

-Kathy

Yeah - I just went to reread the Mareks info, and as I thought, because of the incubation period, the earliest you see symptoms in chicks is 4 weeks. (So I'll certainly be looking for that at that age around here - I want breeding stock form these chicks, so I need strong ones). The diarrhea also does not fit in my assessment.

I have Amprol 128 (amprolium) - I'm making up a strong batch (0.024%) for the little sick one and and a 0.012% batch for everyone else. Off to go finish that...

- Ant Farm

 

[Jessimom]

The sick one will do better if it's in a brooder that 85.

-Kathy

Should she be alone? Or should I put one of the smaller babies in with her?

 

[casportpony]

DOn't want to scare either of you but @Fire Ant Farm and @Jessimom you may want to read up on Marek's just to be able to hopefully rule it out http://www.thepoultrysite.com/diseaseinfo/90/mareks-disease/

I got some relatively good sleep last night, and was still sore this AM, but tried to do some stretching to see if it's that. We'll see. Meanwhile, I was checking on the baby chicks, and I found a German New Hampshire hunkered under the MHP that just didn't look right from what I could see, so I pulled it out, and it seems to have some sort of paralysis-ish thing going on - can't stand, legs curled under it, a wing out to one side. Also had a wet bottom like it was having watery diarrhea. They are 1.5 weeks old, all other chicks ridiculously healthy/rambunctious. I removed him, wiped his bottom (wasn't much actual poop, must be very watery), gave him some Sav-A-Chick (essentially dipped his beak and he swallowed), and put him in a separate mini brooder under another heating pad to keep warm. Just now I made him some scrambled eggs and tried to see if he would eat a tiny bit, but he wouldn't. He did make a little more effort in drinking when I dipped his beak again, but he doesn't look very good. You can see in the pics on the paper towel that he is pooping almost pure water. These were all healthy chicks form a reputable breeder with healthy chickens in a closed flock. They arrived doing well and were put in a clean new brooder, given a little nutridrench on day of arrival, then just filtered water and Dumor 20% chick starter. I'd like to save him if I can, but if not, I definitely want to know if there's something that I should be concerned about for the other chicks (and also to know for the future). I'm considering treating for cocci, but the not being able to get around thing is a little new to me for cocci. Ideas? @casportpony - Ant Farm

did you check the ligaments at the hock?

I actually already know I have Marek's on my property, and lost a laying pullet it it earlier this year. I know that I will be breeding for resistance in all my chickens here, but would not have thought it would begin to take them down at 1 week old. I'll need to go take a look a the big Mareks thread again. @casportpony , any ideas/thoughts? @daxigait , The chick was running around like normal earlier - ligaments look fine. I'm off to go read some more and make up some amphoral water for cocci for everyone. - Ant Farm

I have Marek's, and never see it in any until they are older. Do you have Corid powder or liquid? -Kathy

Yeah - I just went to reread the Mareks info, and as I thought, because of the incubation period, the earliest you see symptoms in chicks is 4 weeks. (So I'll certainly be looking for that at that age around here - I want breeding stock form these chicks, so I need strong ones). The diarrhea also does not fit in my assessment. I have Amprol 128 (amprolium) - I'm making up a strong batch (0.024%) for the little sick one and and a 0.012% batch for everyone else. Off to go finish that... - Ant Farm

Sick one might not be drinking enough, so you could also give it a drench. I'm sure your math skills are way better than mine, lol, but I'll post this for others that might want to make a drench using 20% powdered amprolium (Amprol 128, Corid, AmproMed, etc). The mfg's say that the powder weigh 2.7 grams per teaspoon, so I would mix 1/2 teaspoon powder with 10 ml water, stir well and give 0.07 ml per 100 grams for one or two days. Poultry dose is meant to be 20 mg/kg per day. Amprolium is very safe, so don't worry about giving it in the drinking water as well. -Kathy