pipping but not hatching, need the experts help

[gcorso33]

So Im on day 21 and 2 of my 13 silkie eggs have pipped. First one was over 24 hours ago and the other about 8. Im getting nervous about the one that pipped over 24 hours ago it doesnt seem to be progressing. My temp is at 100, day 1-18 humidty has been in 40's.. Since lockdown it has been about 65-68. Everything I seem to read says to let nature take its course and I dont want to mess anything up for the other setting eggs, is it normal to take this long? Should i try to help?

 

[Tracyrobpopella]

I am a bad hatcher if they internal pip i put pin hole in shell after 6 hours. If they dont progress after 24 hours i take top of air cell off put cocnut oil on membranes if no blood vessels I help them get there heads out leave the rest of shell in place on put them in a shotglass. When they rest and get there engery back i carefully take them out of the shotglass and lay them on there side for them to finish the hatch. I lost one i didnt help and we were so sad. So now i help. All grow up stong and healthy. I have humity issues and just got a humdkit so hopefully that will fix my problem. Days before hatch my humity goes crazy up and down alot. So i know its my incubater not the health of the chick. I have not lost a chick yet doing this. Each person needed to decide there own course of action and be ok with the outcomes.

 

[dfschneider]

Oh no dont help!! A bird has to absolutely hatch itself to survive. Its a phenomenon that if they dont come out on their own, they'll die. Trust me when I say if you attempt to help it from the shell, it will die. Its a tiring process and does take some time. Some are quicker than others. Resist the temptation to go in the incubator a thousand times.

 

[TedJan92_in_Idaho]

Well I have helped several out in the last few days. Humidity must of been wrong and they were to big. the first one pipped and when I noticed it was dead after pip. I immediately opened the large end on the rest and all had broke through the membrane. I bumped the humidity up to 80% and removed most of the large end and kept an eye on them.Kept the mebrane damp and they all pushed out and I never lost a one. 6 total and I helped them all.

 

[temple1612]

Oh no dont help!! A bird has to absolutely hatch itself to survive. Its a phenomenon that if they dont come out on their own, they'll die. Trust me when I say if you attempt to help it from the shell, it will die. Its a tiring process and does take some time. Some are quicker than others. Resist the temptation to go in the incubator a thousand times.

This is not always true. I have personally helped chicks hatch after over 24 hours of them trying and they have lived and are happy healthy hens.

 

[Fairview01]

A 7 year old thread resurrected multiple times.

 

[The Big Dog]

Well, im sorry for your distress.....I know its confusing when reading conflicting advice, all I can tell you is that my wife ALWAYS helps some chickens out. I could not tell you how many 100's she would have saved over the years. I have even seen her with a chicken in the sink been bathed in warm water to "Unstick" the shell from the chicken.
I am not saying this is right or wrong, simply telling you what works for my wife.

Hope your hatch is successful.

Cheers...........The Dog

 

[Manningjw]

I assisted it but it was already dead. I think it died over night. I'm now sitting up with one that is taking it's sweet time but is still peeping here and there so I'm hopeful. We had two others hatch healthy this afternoon and another one die. What makes them start to zip then die?

There are a lot of things that can go wrong with hatching. I know I have been guilty of assisting too much and I also have had a lot of success with assisting with hatches. My last experience assisting with a hatch made me never want to assist again. I had a single chick left that had pipped but didn't progress, all others had successfully hatch without assistance. Finally after I knew she wouldn't make it I assisted and the chick was very very weak and uncoordinated. I figured this was stress from hatching but after helping the chick survive for 2 days by hand feeding and holding it for it to drink it died. It lacked basic coordination needed even for eating/drinking and it never recovered - it was never meant to hatch. My first ever hatch on the other hand I assisted 2 chicks successfully that wouldn't have ever made it and they grew up to be strong healthy birds. One of the chicks that died on this hatch managed to eviscerate her yolk sack while in the egg and I suspect suffocated on the liquid.

For me, I will not assist with a chick that pipped less than 24 hours prior or before day 21 because often times the blood vessels haven't dried up yet and you can kill the chick from blood loss assisting too early.

 

[AmericanMom]

Oh no dont help!! A bird has to absolutely hatch itself to survive. Its a phenomenon that if they dont come out on their own, they'll die. Trust me when I say if you attempt to help it from the shell, it will die. Its a tiring process and does take some time. Some are quicker than others. Resist the temptation to go in the incubator a thousand times.

There should be a rule that folks with this low of post count shouldn't be able to give this kind of advice...

As a rule I don't like to assist, but I will if necessary, but only as a last resort.... There are some really good articles here about how and when to help

 

[Followyourfirstmind]

Well, im sorry for your distress.....I know its confusing when reading conflicting advice, all I can tell you is that my wife ALWAYS helps some chickens out. I could not tell you how many 100's she would have saved over the years. I have even seen her with a chicken in the sink been bathed in warm water to "Unstick" the shell from the chicken.
I am not saying this is right or wrong, simply telling you what works for my wife.

Hope your hatch is successful.

Cheers...........The Dog

I wish i had your wifes advice yesterday and not anyone elses cause on the advice everyone else is giving says to not mess with the eggs that are chripping and move till after 12 to 24 hours, wrong advice they gave, caise the babies pip thru inner liner but end up dieing from not pip outer shell and suffocated and my 7 year daugher was so hirt by it cause her white silkie hatched fine but i had to help it alittle after it pip and couldnt do the zip part so i did it for it and just let it come out the shell on its own, i now wish when i heard the black and the buff color silkies in their eggs chriping and then candled them to see the progress and seen that they pip the inner membrane i was happy that they were doing great but the advice said to wait 12 to 24 hours before they fully brake out themselfs, firstmind is what i should of followed and helped by chipping an air hole in it so they aleast had a chance cause for some odd reason they couldnt chip the eggs their selfs and ended up dieing cause i did step in and help alittle like i did with the first one, and now need to candle the last 5 and see what is going on with those, the white silkie is doing great, it comes to my daughet hand already and walks in so my daughet can pick it up, it was drinking and eatting food about 2 hours after hatching and online it say they can go up to 3 days without eatting, not this one it pretty much hatched dryed off and was thristy and hungry, my daughter loves it, she mane ot tickles and the baby has been in bed with my sence 9am this morning and they both been making vedios together and watching movies on the tablet all morning, it loves daughter already, she can put it down and it runns straight to her, its to cute and to smart already, i just wish i would of followed my first mind then it would of been three little silkies, thanks for listen, going to candle the other 5 and see what we got going on, maybe i could help those ones still.