Please someone answer ASAP - I've already lost 1 chicken to this sickness -

[MaidenShade]

Kathy, I so appreciate your help. Given the symptoms - would you recommend I give her something different? I can go buy it tomorrow if I have to. If so, what, how much, how often.

I'll quit pestering you now. TY again, good night xx

 

[casportpony]

Kathy, I so appreciate your help. Given the symptoms - would you recommend I give her something different? I can go buy it tomorrow if I have to. If so, what, how much, how often.

I'll quit pestering you now. TY again, good night xx

Problem is you won't be able to find anything better locally. Do you have any human antibiotics?

-Kathy

 

[MaidenShade]

no, we have nothing

 

[casportpony]

no, we have nothing

Then try the Tylan and call the lab first thing in the morning. If it's something that is going to respond to the Tylan you should see improvement in 24-48 hours, but I would definitely give the max amount.

-Kathy

 

[MaidenShade]

Okay, so if she's a 3, she's probably closer to two pounds than she is to one pound. I don't know if you're supposed to give tetracycline (Duramycin) and tylosin (Tylan) together, so not sure I would do that. You could try giving her the max dose of Tylan orally, and for a two pound bird that would be:

2 / 2.2 x 55 / 50 = 1 ml orally twice a day

If she were mine and I didn't have any Baytril, Cipro, that's what I would do.

-Kathy

Good morning - this is injectable?

She is coughing more this morning. She didn't jump down to eat, but may have tried to drink her medicened water -

 

[casportpony]

 
Okay, so if she's a 3, she's probably closer to two pounds than she is to one pound. I don't know if you're supposed to give tetracycline (Duramycin) and tylosin (Tylan) together, so not sure I would do that. You could try giving her the max dose of Tylan orally, and for a two pound bird that would be:

2 / 2.2 x 55 / 50 = 1 ml orally twice a day

If she were mine and I didn't have any Baytril, Cipro, that's what I would do.

-Kathy

Good morning - this is injectable?


She is coughing more this morning.  She didn't jump down to eat, but may have tried to drink her medicened water -

Tylan 50 is injectable, but it can cause permanent muscle damage, which is why I suggested giving it orally.

-Kathy

 

[MaidenShade]

Oh I see. TY.

I called Bronson State Lab about the 1st chicken who died, and the doctor's preliminary thoughts are that it is something called "ILT". They do other tests for other diseases (like bird flu, IB, etc.), including a special one to conclusively prove ILT is what she had. I don't think it is ILT according to the symptoms it describes, but the doctor found a lesion in her trachea so that is why she is thinking it might be it. It could be some kind of a bacterial infection. She cannot say conclusively until the tests all come back.
Here's what I found about ILT:
Infectious Laryngotracheitis, ILT
A herpesvirus (pathogenicity can vary) infection of chickens, pheasants, peafowl and turkeys with a morbidity of 50-100% and a mortality usually 10-20% but sometimes up to 70%. Recovered and vaccinated birds are long-term carriers. The route of infection is via upper respiratory tract and conjunctiva or possibly oral and the course of the disease is up to 6 weeks. Fairly slow lateral spread occurs in houses. Transmission between farms can occur by airborne particles or fomites.
The virus is highly resistant outside host but is susceptible to disinfectants. Movement and mixing of stock and reaching point of lay are predisposing factors.
SIGNS
Dyspnoea.
Gasping.
Coughing of mucus and blood.
Drop in egg production.
Ocular discharge.
Sinusitis.
Nasal discharge (low pathogenicity strains).
Post-mortem lesions
Severe laryngotracheitis, often with blood in lumen, caseous plugs may be present.
Microscopically - intranuclear inclusions in tracheal epithelium.
Diagnosis
Signs, lesions, in severe form may be enough. Isolation in CE CAMs, histology, IFA, PCR. Differentiate from Newcastle disease, severe bronchitis. Sera may be examined by VN or Elisa.
TREATMENT
None, antibiotics to control secondary bacterial infection if this is marked.
PREVENTION
Quarantine, vaccination, if enzootic or epizootic in an area, after 4 weeks of age. All-in/all-out operation. Keep susceptible stock separate from vaccinated or recovered birds. Apply strict biosecurity in moving equipment or materials between these these categories of stock.

 

[casportpony]

So what are you going to do?

-Kathy

 

[MaidenShade]

Hard as it is we will cull her (she worsened) and others that become ill. Antibiotics won't help them, they will always be carriers. So awful.

 

[casportpony]

So sorry.

-Kathy