This is off topic but Print Tippler I don't see how red eye ceres, Bright red beaks and feet have to do with blood flow and Robustness I always thought it was just a pigment would you mind explaining little more do all breeds have to have this pigment ? I find this interesting cause some birds in my flock have it and other don't I never thought of it as a big deal I think my flocks pretty robust.Homing pigeons are not less robust or dove like compared to Ferals. It's the opposite... There are plenty domestic non utility pigeons bred to be healthy and vigorous. The flight I posted above has an large oil gland which is good thing as it protect feathers and also makes them shiny as an side effect. They also have bright red eye cere and bright red beaks, feet and legs showing that they have a large amount of healthy blood flow. I consider that a sign of robustness.