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[itsren]

Mom is from Holland - she thinks re-heated spinach is toxic. I've noticed this in all Dutch natives I've met. If you cook spinach, you must eat it right away .... no spinach quiche spanakopita, or anything like that. Apparently spinach leftovers are deadly to the dutch!

but not their Amercan children!

http://www.wolfstad.com/2009/05/reheating-spinach-dangerous-in-holland-fine-in-rest-of-world/

If reheating spinach really does cause nitrates, I would tend to believe this. Nitrates have been proven in many studies to cause cancer. We used to be be a big time backyard barbeque family. We loved those pretty black stripes on our meat. My FIL passed away from colon cancer. My MIL passed away from cancer. I don't have any cancer in my family history at all, but after years of living my husband's family lifestyle, I had a polyp removed that was precancerous - a very fast type growing cancer cell and was told to eliminate eating nitrates as much as possible because it was proven in multiple studies that that particular cancer cell was caused by nitrates. They strongly stressed that I avoid nitrates. Thankfully they caught it - they said had I not had an early colonoscopy, I would not have lived to see 50. I radically changed what I was eating and try not to eat foots that are laden in nitrates (blackened meats, packaged sandwich meats, deli meats, hot dogs, etc.) I was tested again 3 years later and so far so good. So, if reheating spinach really does cause nitrates, it could actually be deadly to American children, too.

We're still somewhat of a barbeque family - meats, though, now get cooked in tin foil so they don't develop any blackening at all. I avoid deli-type meats, as well, as much as I can.

 

[CarolynF]

I cook a pound of rice in five cups of water (parch the rice in preheating oven; add hot (teakettle) water just below the boil, bake at 350 for an hour then add one 1000au vitamin D pill and one 500mg calcium per chicken 1 T sea salt and 1/2 C olive oil (all from Trader Joe's except the calcium, which is from Walgreens) and let cool. If I have extra apples, they get apples chopped in, once in a while.
I feed this in their treat bowls, which are separate from their regular feed and used for everything from raw oatmeal to scratch grains to red worms to restraunt doggy bags. In winter I often add chunks of orange to the mix. Every once in a while I kick in some EZ iron (again, TJ's) which is a powdered FeS in caps; I break open those caps.
Part of the thinking behind the extra D and calcium is that I do not free range, and also I have UV resistant greenhouse plastic over the layer pens
They also get all sorts of greens, especially Romaine lettuce and lemon balm, and cut lawn grass in midsummer when the sheep can't keep up with it.

Thank you, that's exactly what I needed! There is just so little sunshine during our cloudy fall-winter-spring months!
My girls get outside their pen, but much of free ranging is under a big apple tree so it's shaded a lot this time of year. There's not much growing there either, so I stuff a suet feeder with kale and collard leaves and provide other fruit and vegetables fairly regularly. My mother thinks they're treated pretty royally! hehe

 

[itsren]

Check out this Google search - a bunch of articles linking nitrates to cancer, here in the U.S...

https://www.google.com/search?q=nit...s=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a

So the question is - does reheating spinach really cause nitrates?

 

[Chickielady]

When I have flocks with that problem sometimes I have to use three feed trays.
Most of the time two will do.
Ticks off the bullies when they can't take charge of all the food.

Kind of like what our government is trying to do.

And the gas, and the guns, and the Pharmacuetical companies, and the insurance companies, and the telephone companies, and....

 

[4cats3kids1hubby2many]

Congrats Chicken Rustler for being the first to reply to what will surely be a HUGE thread within no time at all.

Rob: Nice pink tiger.

Nifty: He doesn't get a prize or somethnig does he? Ya' know, he rustles chickens...I mean...I'm just sayin'.

 

[CarolynF]

OH: about treats and pecking order: if you're feeding sufficient treats for everyone, the lowest chicken should have something to eat after the others get bored and walk off. The ONLY chicken I have that gets shorted in Sylvia: Ian either eats everything, or spoils shat he doesn't eat so she can't have it: it's why he's going to that great stockpot in the sky. I use big feed pans- I started with the rubber grain pans we use for show cattle, but now use plastic because the rubber is impossible to keep clean and chickens can't breat plastic by stepping on it like cattle! Those are from Del's and are the 12" size, so there's no crowding other chickens out.

You haven't met my fiesty little EE. She's the smallest of the group, but if she even THINKS she MIGHT want to eat something, you better not come around. I think she could chase off a good sized dog if they looked like they were interested in her food!

But, like you said, if there's left-overs and she moves about 30 feet away, then there's a chance the others will get some. I usually just make sure to have 2 plates of food... one for her and one for everyone else, and put them far apart!
Thanks again.

 

[Chickielady]

Try carmelize sone onion and garlic then add raw green beans and a little itialian herb seasoning (from the grinder) to taste.

OOOOooooohh yeah baaaby !!!

Green beans (fresh picked) and cut up new potatoes and bacon !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Chickielady]

Most of my hens only have slight nubs, but one of my cuckoo marans from Chickielady has HUGE spurs, bigger than may of my roos. They hare at least an inch and a half long, and yes, I am sure she is a hen. A very broody one at that!

THAT is just weird !!!!!!!!!!

 

[Chickielady]

Hey CL do you have POL EE or OR for sale??? I have somebody looking for a couple.

OR ?
No more EEs here, still have a few BJs though.

 

[Chicken Rustler]

Quote: But have you checked to see what may be getting into the meat from the foil? While it is aluminum foil there are things in aluminum that are less than healthy. And IF you really are using "tin foil" to keep in mind that tin has a high content of zinc.