Worming with Safeguard Goat Wormer

[casportpony]

Casportpony replied
I also like to say that it would be best to gather up a bunch of fresh poop, have a vet do a fecal float.
That will tell you know if you need to worm, what worms you have, and what wormer to use.

I totally agree
But that is a Vet cost and I thought that is what people are trying to have to not pay for?
So what wormer do you use or do you not worm?
your knowledge is priceless.
thanks
Glenda Heywood

Many people don't want to pay for a vet, but it is the right thing to do.

I use Safeguard (goat/cow liquid), but only when needed.

 

[casportpony]

Here is a source for 60 ml of Valbazen for $14.75 plus shipping:
https://www.wholesalekennel.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=29

It's quite expensive per ml, but if you're trying to save money it might be better than ~$45 price for 500 ml.

 

[casportpony]

A horse vet wrote this:
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[Glenda Heywoodo]

thanks

 

[casportpony]

Source: http://parasitipedia.net/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=2649&Itemid=2938
CAPILLARIA spp, parasitic roundworms of POULTRY - chicken, turkey, geese, etc. Biology, prevention and control. Capillaria annulata, Capillaria contorta, Capillaria bursata, capillariasis
Capillaria is a genus of parasitic roundworms that infects chickens, turkeys, ducks, geese, grouse, quails, pheasants, guinea fowls and other domestic and wild birds. They belong to the group of hairworms or threadworms,

They occur worldwide and are very common in chicken: up to 60% of a population can be infected.
There are hundreds of species worldwide, although many species are nowadays assigned to other genera (e.g. Eucoleus, Aonchotheca, etc.). The most relevant species for poultry are:

• Capillaria annulata = Eucoleus annulatus, found mainly in chicken, turkey and wild gallinaceans in Europe, America and Asia.
• Capillaria bursata = Aonchotheca bursata, found mainly in chicken, turkey, pheasants in Europe and America.
• Capillaria contorta = Eucoleus contortus, found mainly in ducks, geese, nut also in chicken, turkey and many wild birds, worldwide.
• Capillaria caudinflata = Aonchotheca caudinflata, found mainly in chicken, turkey, geese, pigeons and many wild birds in Europe, Asia and America.
• Capillaria obsignata, found mainly in chicken, turkey, geese, pigeons and many wild birds, worldwide.
• Capillaria anatis = Capillaria retusa, found mainly in ducks, geese, but also chicken and turkey, worldwide.

These worms do not affect dogs, cats, cattle sheep, goats or swine. Other Capillaria species infect dogs and cats.
The disease caused by Capillaria worms is called capillariasis or capillariosis.
Are birds infected with Capillaria worms contagious for humans?

• NO: The reason is that these worms are not human parasites.

You can find additional information in this site on the general biology of parasitic worms and/or roundworms.
Final location of Capillaria worms

Predilection site of adult Capillaria worms depend on the species:

• Capillaria annulata = Eucoleus annulatus: mucosa of crop and esophagus
• Capillaria bursata = Aonchotheca bursata: small intestine
• Capillaria contorta = Eucoleus contortus: crop and esophagus
• Capillaria caudinflata = Aonchotheca caudinflata: small intestine
• Capillaria obsignata: small intestine
• Capillaria anatis = Capillaria retusa: cecum, occasionally the small intestine

Anatomy of Capillaria worms

Adult Capillaria worms are very thin worms (hairworms), up to 8 cm long (depending on the species) and of a whitish color. Females are longer than males. As in other roundworms, the body of these worms is covered with a cuticle, which is flexible but rather tough. The worms have a tubular digestive system with two openings, the mouth and the anus. They also have a nervous system but no excretory organs and no circulatory system, i.e. neither a heart nor blood vessels. The female ovaries are large and the uteri end in an opening called the vulva, which in these worms is located just after the esophagus. Males have a rudimentary bursa with only one spicule (with species-specific size and morphology) for attaching to the female during copulation.
Capillaria eggs are ovoid, about ~30x70 micrometers (species-specific sizes), with a thick shell, two polar plugs, and contain a single cell (i.e. they are not embryonated when shed).
Life cycle of Capillaria worms

Some Capillaria species (e.g. Capillaria anatis, Capillaria obsignata) have a direct life cycle, i.e. there are no intermediate hosts involved. Larvae develop inside the eggs passed in the feces and become infective in 7 to 50 days, depending on species, temperature and humidity. Domestic and wild birds ingest these infective eggs with contaminated food or water. These eggs can remain infective in the environment (soil, litter, etc.) for months and can survive frost.
Other species (e.g. Capillaria annulata, Capillaria bursata, Capillaria caudinflata) have various earthworm species (e.g. Lumbricus, Eisenia, etc.) as obligate intermediate hosts. These earthworms ingest the eggs, and the eggs release the larvae inside the worms. These larvae become infective in 2 to 4 weeks. Inside the earthworms infective larvae can survive for years.
Capillaria contorta can complete development both directly and indirectly with earthworms as facultative intermediate hosts.
Once in their final hosts, infective larvae reach their predilection sites rather quickly. Larvae of some species penetrate into the gut's wall and spend part of their development there, before returning the gut's lumen where they complete development to adult worms and reproduce. Larvae of other species do not penetrate the gut's wall but complete their whole development to adults in the gut's lumen.
The prepatent periods (time between infection and first eggs shed) are species-specific:

• Capillaria annulata = Eucoleus annulatus: 2 to 4 weeks
• Capillaria bursata = Aonchotheca bursata: 3 to 4 weeks
• Capillaria contorta = Eucoleus contortus: 6 to 8 weeks
• Capillaria caudinflata = Aonchotheca caudinflata: 3 to 4 weeks
• Capillaria obsignata: 3 to 4 weeks
• Capillaria anatis = Capillaria retusa: ~4 weeks

Species with a direct life cycle are more frequent under intensive farming conditions where constant temperature and humidity are ideal for larval development in the worms' eggs shed with the feces. Species with indirect life cycles are particularly abundant in traditional farms with birds kept outdoors, especially in humid and humus-rich soils that are favorable for earthworm development. In such farms wild birds can easily introduce Capillaria and other parasitic worms from outside.
Harm caused by Capillaria worms, symptoms and diagnosis

Capillaria annulata and Capillaria contorta are the most damaging species. They can seriously harm the lining of the crop and the esophagus, especially in turkeys end pheasants, but also in chicken up to 4 months old. The lining of the crop and the esophagus becomes inflamed and swollen, which can make swallowing impossible for affected birds. Fatalities are frequent in cases of heavy infections.
The species in the intestine get into the villi and even into the intestinal glands, and in case of heavy infections they can cause enteritis and fibrosis.
Predominant clinical signs, mainly in young birds are diarrhea (mucous or even liquid), anemia, apathy, ruffled feathers, loss of appetite and weight, reduced egg production in layers, etc. Affected ducklings may not properly swim.
Diagnosis is based on detection of typical eggs in the feces and/or on identification of the worms in their predilection sites after necropsy.
Prevention and control of Capillaria infections

To prevent or at least reduce Capillaria infections it is recommended to keep the birds' bedding as dry as possible and to frequently change it, because development of the worms' eggs needs humidity. Strict hygiene of feeders and drinkers are a must to avoid or reduce their contamination with eggs. Pasture rotation is also recommended. For birds kept outdoors it is advisable to restrict their access to humid environments where earthworms are usually more abundant. All these measures are especially important for young birds, which are likely to suffer more from Capillaria infections.
Numerous classic broad spectrum anthelmintics are effective against Capillaria worms, e.g. several benzimidazoles (albendazole, fenbendazole, flubendazole, mebendazole, oxfendazole, etc.), levamisole, as well as macrocyclic lactones (e.g. ivermectin). Some compounds with a narrower spectrum are also effective against these worms, e.g. piperazine derivatives and pyrantel.
For use on poultry these active ingredients are usually available as additives for feed or drinking water, seldom as injectables or tablets (mainly for single animal treatment, typical for fighting cocks).
Most such wormers kill the worms shortly after treatment and are quickly metabolized and/or excreted within a few hours or days. This means that they have a short residual effect, or no residual effect at all. As a consequence treated animals are cured from worms but do not remain protected against new infections. To ensure that they remain worm-free the animals have to be dewormed periodically, depending on the local epidemiological, ecological and climatic conditions.
So far no vaccine is available against Capillaria worms. To learn more about vaccines against parasites of livestock and pets click here.
Biological control of Capillaria worms (i.e. using its natural enemies) is so far not feasible.
You may be interested in an article in this site on medicinal plants against external and internal parasites.
Resistance of Capillaria worms to anthelmintics

There are a no reports on confirmed resistance of Capillaria worms to anthelmintics.
This means that if an anthelmintic fails to achieve the expected efficacy against Capillaria worms it is most likely that either the product was unsuited for the control of these worms, or it was used incorrectly.

Ask your veterinary doctor! If available, follow more specific national or regional recommendations for Capillaria control.​

Written by P. Junquera
Last Updated on December 12 2016

 

[Glenda Heywoodo]

thanks
no need for this on twice

 

[casportpony]

The worms shown in your last post are earth worms.


Cecal Worms


Large roundworms

 

[casportpony]

• A PICTURE OD CAPILLARY WORMS FROM BING
• https://www.bing.com/images/search?...rms.&qpvt=what+are+capillary+worms.&FORM=IGRE

Glenda Heywood
THIS POST INFORMATION ANSWERS A LOT OF QUESTIONS I HAVE ASKED
THANKS TO ALL WHO POSTED THIS VALUBLE INFORMATION

Deerman on BYC posted
First the earthworm is the host of Capillary worm. So indeed they could have them.
I worm my birds with panacure wormer 3cc per gallon of water for 3 days then again 14 days later.

3 cc per gallon will not treat capillary worms.

Silkiechicken from BYC posted
And to add, one "quick and easy" way to check for worms is to take a fecal sample if you can get it
to the vet for a "fecal float" test. This will let you know the types and kinds of worms/parasites inside the
birds. That way you can get the right drug for the job as not all wormers/drugs are the same.

Good advice!

Chickenzoo posted on BYC
Worms and coccidia come to mind. The light color in her comb could mean she is anemic.
Whenever my birds start losing weight, off feed or overly hungry and fluff up and stay by
themselves, that's the first thing I look for. Safe guard goat wormer is like panacure and
can be used for callap. worms etc. Amaprolium -(Corid) is used for coccidia, Sulmet if you can't find Corid.

Chickenzoo posted on BYC
Tractor Supply or most feed stores carry Safe guard(Panacur), comes in a white, green and yellow label.
It is a wormer that they have for horses, & goats. The goat version is easiest to dose but in a pinch you
can give the Safeguard horse paste but only use a small bead size of it or peanut size amount.

A peanut size is not enough to treat a 5 pound chicken, and it need to be given 5 consecutive days to treat capillary worms.

Chickenlady posted on BYC
I would personally use ivomec eprinex pour on (for cattle) to treat the worms. Usually a wormer is a one
time application so i would do that first and then the next day start them on sulmet in the water for the
recommended amount of time on the bottle. After about 10 days has passed, I would worm again. Good luck.

Studies show that ivermectin is not an effective poultry dewormer. Not sure about Eprinex (eprinomectin)

Deerman posted on BYC
I use the safe guard for goats, 3cc per gal. of water treat for 3 day then again in 14 days.
Would treat all. Make sure you mix it again the next day, just shake the waterer.
3 cc per gallon will not treat capillary worms.

I give peafowl 1/2 cc if just treating one.
Not enough for an adult peafowl.

I worm all With safe guard 3 times a year, also worm with ivomec but not at the same time,
it will even kill lices and mites.

Remember earthworms are host to the Capillary worm, reason I treat all my birds.

Yes most bird build up immune to cocci, it will always be found in the ground, reason
most peachicks and young turkey dont do well raised on the ground for those first weeks.
The ivomec is a great wormer, but will not kill the Capillary worms.

Reason I use both, just not at the same time.

ivomec last for 30 day per treatment, also dont use during laying season.

Chickenzoo posted on BYC
Normally Safeguard goat wormer is used 1cc per 10lbs of bird. (My Vet)If dosing the other birds
as a whole then the recommendation Deerman suggested. I use on peafowl, chickens, turkey,
Emu etc. Even the dog. Corid is a little safer to use then Sulmet for coccidia because it is harder
to overdose them on it. Threat for coccidia for 3-7 days, wait a week and then treat with Safeguard.
Chickens become use to coccidia in their enviroment, but any new birds, domestic or wild can
introduce new strains that they are not use too and therefore upset their system. Best Wishes

Dawg53 posted on BYC

Hope your hen make it

I am wondering will this kind of worm kill a chicken ?

Yes. It's probably one of the more deadly types of worms that a chicken can get simply because
their numbers can be overwhelming. They can only be seen under a microscope for the most part.

casportpony posted on BYC

Hope your hen make it

I am wondering will this kind of worm kill a chicken ?

Yes, and I think there is only one wormer that will kill them with one dose, that's Valbazen, but don't quote me one that, there maybe others where one dose works. Safeguard requires several days of dosing.

http://parasitipedia.net/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=2649&Itemid=2938
"Harm caused by Capillaria worms, symptoms and diagnosis

Capillaria annulata and Capillaria contorta are the most damaging species. They can seriously harm the lining of the crop and the esophagus, especially in turkeys end pheasants, but also in chicken up to 4 months old. The lining of the crop and the esophagus becomes inflamed and swollen, which can make swallowing impossible for affected birds. Fatalities are frequent in cases of heavy infections.
The species in the intestine get into the villi and even into the intestinal glands, and in case of heavy infections they can cause enteritis and fibrosis.
Predominant clinical signs, mainly in young birds are diarrhea (mucous or even liquid), anemia, apathy, ruffled feathers, loss of appetite and
weight, reduced egg production in layers, etc. Affected ducklings may not properly swim.
Diagnosis is based on detection of typical eggs in the feces and/or on identification of the worms in their predilection sites after necropsy."
-Kathy
https://www.backyardchickens.com/t/...ite-inactive-clear-watery-poo-new-symptom/10#
Eggcessive posted on BYC
Here is a little blurb from the Merck Manual:

Fenbendazole (SafeGuard , Panacur) is approved in the USA for use in growing turkeys at the rate
of 14.5 g/ton of feed (16 ppm), fed continuously as the sole ration for 6 days for the removal of
Ascaridia dissimilis and Heterakis gallinarum. No withdrawal time is required. One study indicates
a possible negative effect on sperm quality by the drug. It has been suggested that an alternative
drug be used for treatment of breeding toms or that the sperm number and frequency of artificial
inseminations be increased. Fenbendazole is not approved for use in other poultry in the USA but
is effective against Ascaris when administered once at 10–50 mg/kg; if needed the treatment can
be repeated after 10 days. At 10–50 mg/kg, fenbendazole when administered daily over 5 days is
effective against Capillaria. Fenbendazole is also efffective against other nematodes when administered
at 10–50 mg/kg/day for 3–5 days or as a single dosage of 20–100 mg/kg, or added to the drinking water
at 125 mg/L for 5 days or to the feed at 100 mg/kg. Fenbendazole should not be administered during molt,
because it may interfere with feather regrowth.
Albendazole (Valbazen) administered as a single oral suspension (5 mg/kg bird weight) was reported effective
against A galli, H gallinarum, and Capillaria obsignata. The drug also has been reported effective against
cestodes if administered at 20 mg/kg. There are no published withdrawal times

 

[casportpony]

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[Glenda Heywoodo]

thanks
no need for my post on twice