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all american gamefowl are old and rare with some older than others. most are old english gamefowl with something added; cuban, spanish, asil, jap and then bred to be a family or strain here is my green leg gray american gamefowl hen. she will be bred to my pure reynolds asil cock to make my own...

warhorse is not a breed but a strain of american gamefowl

thanks king here is another:

an old and rare breed ; asils

I you look hard enough you could probably find some unicorns and fairies. I just don't buy the whole saipan story. if they were real, nobody has real ones in the us. anymore

after having these asil I realize that I can't keep too many but I will always keep a few.

out of all the gamefowl breeds known, which did you keep the most of?

you already said that you didn't want cubalayas or game chickens so i don't think saladin could help you. what kind of game chicken did you say that you raised in the past? you should be able to find plenty of swedish flower hens at a local chicken swap if thats what you are looking for.

if you like the gamefowl colors but don't like the gameness, you should try cubalayas. they are great layers of medium sized tinted or light brown eggs. good to eat and look good in your yard. cocks are 5 to 6 lbs. and hens 3 to 4 lbs. they are not game. a rare breed that needs more dedicated...

the asils are ancient, the cubalayas just old and rare

pictures?

they are probably 'sports' of the blacks.

cross strains if there are enough different strains left. if not start grading.

was it fade or fad breeding? what is the big fad this year? we never had lavender or chocolate orpingtons, coronation sussex, or swedish flower hens because they seemed like fad breeds. i have been breeding for type first and then color. is this the wrong thing now?

cubalayas are good broodies and they are very good to eat. they are pretty good layers too and look good in your yard. the cocks are not manfighters or mean but very tame around humans. they can forage a good amount of their own food and thrive on freerange. a very sustainable dual purpose bird.

Quote: can i join this one, lol.

i would go with the delawares. good meat, big, brown eggs and foragers. they also are rare and need breeders. we had dominiques for years and while very hardy and good layers, not great for meat. also never had a nice dominique rooster. all of them were mean.

have hatched some nice ones this spring: black australorps, cubalayas, and some heritage delaware chicks. i seem to be getting a few white sports from my cubalayas. will see if i can get some nice red pyles off them or just keep a white strain.

thanks for the link. they look pretty cool.

are they the same as muffed old english games?