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daxigait said:

Well, I am hoping for twins.
Let's see, I own two Peruvian Paso horses, three bred Charangus cows and a steer for a few more months

one Berkshire cross sow with eleven piglets, one Nubian doe currently kidding, two Saanen does one pregnant and one with three week old twins, one pregnant mostly Boer with a bit of Kiko doe, one purebred Boer doe with a three week old doeling, two indoor cats and one feral barn cat trapped to neuter and then left to hunt. I also have a bunch of young chickens as I lost my adults. The oldest are from Christmas and Jan 21 hatches (14), and I have close to 70 from one week to ten weeks that will be sorted out to form my new beeders. I will also be getting some HRIR soon. I got carried away getting eggs and chicks and will have to decide what I am keeping. I know I want my RIR and Barred Rocks. I also plan to for sure keep some BBS Ameruacana, CCL, and leghorns for EE and Sapphires.
That is the menagerie

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I think you are missing some donkeys, ducks, geese, llamas, etc lol

I was wondering if you had any gaited horses because of your screen name. That's quite impressive! I hope someday to work less and have more animals, i feel bad for the animals i currently have , I have a friend up the road that raises herefords and have been trying to get him to let me breed one of his cows with a bison (someone a couple towns over has a bison farm) mmm beefalo

Good luck on for Twins

Jessimom said:

Ok, yesterday I found a dead chick in my brooder. Today I have a baby that can't seem to walk, she is laying down with a wing lifted. If she does try to walk, she sort of scoots, doesn't stand up

This is the chick I found yesterday. It's the one up against the wall.

These chicks have been getting vitamins in every 3rd water change.. any idea what might be wrong?

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@casportpony

I got some relatively good sleep last night, and was still sore this AM, but tried to do some stretching to see if it's that. We'll see.

Meanwhile, I was checking on the baby chicks, and I found a German New Hampshire hunkered under the MHP that just didn't look right from what I could see, so I pulled it out, and it seems to have some sort of paralysis-ish thing going on - can't stand, legs curled under it, a wing out to one side. Also had a wet bottom like it was having watery diarrhea. They are 1.5 weeks old, all other chicks ridiculously healthy/rambunctious.

I removed him, wiped his bottom (wasn't much actual poop, must be very watery), gave him some Sav-A-Chick (essentially dipped his beak and he swallowed), and put him in a separate mini brooder under another heating pad to keep warm. Just now I made him some scrambled eggs and tried to see if he would eat a tiny bit, but he wouldn't. He did make a little more effort in drinking when I dipped his beak again, but he doesn't look very good. You can see in the pics on the paper towel that he is pooping almost pure water.







These were all healthy chicks form a reputable breeder with healthy chickens in a closed flock. They arrived doing well and were put in a clean new brooder, given a little nutridrench on day of arrival, then just filtered water and Dumor 20% chick starter. I'd like to save him if I can, but if not, I definitely want to know if there's something that I should be concerned about for the other chicks (and also to know for the future). I'm considering treating for cocci, but the not being able to get around thing is a little new to me for cocci.

Ideas?

@casportpony

- Ant Farm

DwayneNLiz said:

I think you are missing some donkeys, ducks, geese, llamas, etc lol

I was wondering if you had any gaited horses because of your screen name. That's quite impressive! I hope someday to work less and have more animals, i feel bad for the animals i currently have , I have a friend up the road that raises herefords and have been trying to get him to let me breed one of his cows with a bison (someone a couple towns over has a bison farm) mmm beefalo

Good luck on for Twins 

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Thanks, and I forgot. I do own two llamas one to guard my goats and one to guard my and my friend's goats at her house

DOn't want to scare either of you but @Fire Ant Farm and @Jessimom
you may want to read up on Marek's just to be able to hopefully rule it out

http://www.thepoultrysite.com/diseaseinfo/90/mareks-disease/

Fire Ant Farm said:

I got some relatively good sleep last night, and was still sore this AM, but tried to do some stretching to see if it's that. We'll see. Meanwhile, I was checking on the baby chicks, and I found a German New Hampshire hunkered under the MHP that just didn't look right from what I could see, so I pulled it out, and it seems to have some sort of paralysis-ish thing going on - can't stand, legs curled under it, a wing out to one side. Also had a wet bottom like it was having watery diarrhea. They are 1.5 weeks old, all other chicks ridiculously healthy/rambunctious. I removed him, wiped his bottom (wasn't much actual poop, must be very watery), gave him some Sav-A-Chick (essentially dipped his beak and he swallowed), and put him in a separate mini brooder under another heating pad to keep warm. Just now I made him some scrambled eggs and tried to see if he would eat a tiny bit, but he wouldn't. He did make a little more effort in drinking when I dipped his beak again, but he doesn't look very good. You can see in the pics on the paper towel that he is pooping almost pure water. These were all healthy chicks form a reputable breeder with healthy chickens in a closed flock. They arrived doing well and were put in a clean new brooder, given a little nutridrench on day of arrival, then just filtered water and Dumor 20% chick starter. I'd like to save him if I can, but if not, I definitely want to know if there's something that I should be concerned about for the other chicks (and also to know for the future). I'm considering treating for cocci, but the not being able to get around thing is a little new to me for cocci. Ideas? @casportpony - Ant Farm

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did you check the ligaments at the hock?

Jessimom said:

Ok, yesterday I found a dead chick in my brooder. Today I have a baby that can't seem to walk, she is laying down with a wing lifted. If she does try to walk, she sort of scoots, doesn't stand up

This is the chick I found yesterday. It's the one up against the wall.

These chicks have been getting vitamins in every 3rd water change.. any idea what might be wrong?

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Coccidiosis? To be sure, might be a good idea to send the deceased one to one of the four labs in CA (Davis, Turlock, Tulare or San Bernadino). Sorry for your loss.

-Kathy

DwayneNLiz said:

DOn't want to scare either of you but @Fire Ant Farm
 and @Jessimom

 you may want to read up on Marek's just to be able to hopefully rule it out

http://www.thepoultrysite.com/diseaseinfo/90/mareks-disease/

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That's what I am afraid of. Yesterday I dropped my bird off to be necropsied. They are sending it to UC Davis. Waiting is tough.

Jessimom said:

DwayneNLiz said:

Could it have been trampled by others??

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It's possible. These babies,are mostly the same size. There are within a week of each other. This a runt, and there are 35 babies in there. Will it survive?

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How warm is your brooder?

-Kathy

Fire Ant Farm said:

I got some relatively good sleep last night, and was still sore this AM, but tried to do some stretching to see if it's that. We'll see. Meanwhile, I was checking on the baby chicks, and I found a German New Hampshire hunkered under the MHP that just didn't look right from what I could see, so I pulled it out, and it seems to have some sort of paralysis-ish thing going on - can't stand, legs curled under it, a wing out to one side. Also had a wet bottom like it was having watery diarrhea. They are 1.5 weeks old, all other chicks ridiculously healthy/rambunctious. I removed him, wiped his bottom (wasn't much actual poop, must be very watery), gave him some Sav-A-Chick (essentially dipped his beak and he swallowed), and put him in a separate mini brooder under another heating pad to keep warm. Just now I made him some scrambled eggs and tried to see if he would eat a tiny bit, but he wouldn't. He did make a little more effort in drinking when I dipped his beak again, but he doesn't look very good. You can see in the pics on the paper towel that he is pooping almost pure water. These were all healthy chicks form a reputable breeder with healthy chickens in a closed flock. They arrived doing well and were put in a clean new brooder, given a little nutridrench on day of arrival, then just filtered water and Dumor 20% chick starter. I'd like to save him if I can, but if not, I definitely want to know if there's something that I should be concerned about for the other chicks (and also to know for the future). I'm considering treating for cocci, but the not being able to get around thing is a little new to me for cocci. Ideas? @casportpony - Ant Farm

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Could be coccidiosis... How does his abdominal cavity feel compared to the others? Wet his belly and check for purple areas. By Day ten their yolks are absorbed, so his belly should not be bloated at all. -Kathy