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Can't get rid of cocci

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Hi all. So here is the situation my chicks started coming down with cocci symptoms shortly after I started allowing them to go outside. I treated with corrid and symptoms disappeared I treated full strength for 5 days straight. Then again in a week. Things went along fine for a couple weeks then I start seeing blood in the poop. Again treated with corrid max strength 2 tablespoons per gallon changed daily for 5 days. Then again in a week. Again chickens seemed healthy no more blood. During this time I disinfected all food, waters, cages, and clean bedding before during and after treatment. Then chicks started having tapeworm symptoms so treated with fenbendazole max strength chickens recovered. Again everything sterilized and disinfected after treatment. Now my chicks are back to showing cocci signs so I am treating with corrid again. They are about 9 weeks old and a few that are younger. This started happening at about 4 weeks when I started allowing them to go outside. Have no previous chickens and I'm the first owner of this house. I do have wild birds in the backyard and dogs. So what is going on why do they keep getting cocci? They get probiotics, vitamins electrolytes every 3rd day are in starter feed medicated with poultry bloom mixed in, I feed mealworms as treats and chick grit. I clean their food and water daily as needed and bedding about once a week. No access to staples, glass, or anything like that. Why do they keep showing cocci signs, and I'm sure that's it because after I treat it goes away, why does it keep coming back? Any suggestions I'm scouring the merks manual and other poultry books but not getting anywhere. Thanks for any help or suggestionsp
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My chicks also got it shortly after accessing pasture. I would take a blood poo to the vet for a fecal exam. They can tell you if you have cocci for sure or worms or anything else that shows up on a fecal exam. Cost at my vet (does not have to be avian) was $25. And includes looking for the other stuff.

 

The cocci treatment actually just slows it's growth. I read something about treating your yard with lime to help reduce it out there.

 

I can feel your frustration. If you are able, making sure you are treating the right thing would help. Also, I know there are intestine lining sheds occasionally.

 

One possibility would be using the 21 day lower dose prevention. I know the treatment is robbing the thiamine away from the birds/cocci, I don't know how long you can continue treatment without any ill side effects. I think you are supposed to do a vitamin b supplement a couple weeks afterwards, I have not yet.

 

Good luck!

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Hi all. So here is the situation my chicks started coming down with cocci symptoms shortly after I started allowing them to go outside. I treated with corrid and symptoms disappeared I treated full strength for 5 days straight. Then again in a week. Things went along fine for a couple weeks then I start seeing blood in the poop. Again treated with corrid max strength 2 tablespoons per gallon changed daily for 5 days. Then again in a week. Again chickens seemed healthy no more blood. During this time I disinfected all food, waters, cages, and clean bedding before during and after treatment. Then chicks started having tapeworm symptoms so treated with fenbendazole max strength chickens recovered. Again everything sterilized and disinfected after treatment. Now my chicks are back to showing cocci signs so I am treating with corrid again. They are about 9 weeks old and a few that are younger. This started happening at about 4 weeks when I started allowing them to go outside. Have no previous chickens and I'm the first owner of this house. I do have wild birds in the backyard and dogs. So what is going on why do they keep getting cocci? They get probiotics, vitamins electrolytes every 3rd day are in starter feed medicated with poultry bloom mixed in, I feed mealworms as treats and chick grit. I clean their food and water daily as needed and bedding about once a week. No access to staples, glass, or anything like that. Why do they keep showing cocci signs, and I'm sure that's it because after I treat it goes away, why does it keep coming back? Any suggestions I'm scouring the merks manual and other poultry books but not getting anywhere. Thanks for any help or suggestionsp

A little more information will be helpful.

Can you post photos of the poop?

What symptoms are you seeing of Cocci?

What were the symptoms for tapeworm?

 

Dosage for Cocci is 1 1/2 teaspoons Corid powder per gallon or 2 teaspoons of 9.6% Corid liquid per gallon

Give for 5-7 days - make sure this is the ONLY water available during that time period. Mix a fresh batch at least once a day.

 

 

http://www.backyardchickens.com/t/818879/updated-corid-and-amprol-amprolium-dosing

http://www.backyardchickens.com/a/coccidiosis-how-to-treat-it

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Wyorp,
I have been giving at a slightly higher dosage of 2 tablespoons per gallon with the powder changed each day and only water source available. First symptoms of cocci, lethargy, ruffled feathers, blood in feces not lining but bright red watery blood and foamy oily feces after treatment these symptoms disappeared. Took a sample to the lab and they confirmed coccidiosis. Everything as fine for a week or two then symptoms reappeared treated all recovered. That was suppose to be gape worm stupid auto correct on the phone. Shaking head gapeing wheezing treated with fenbendazole all recovered symptoms disappeared. Check mouth and throat with q-tip no more red worms. Again week or so and now cocci symptoms again treating. I'm just baffled why they aren't building a tolerance. They are on medicated chick feed. What other info do you need I'm happy yo supply it?
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