Anybody know how i would breed porcelain or lemon porcelain birds?

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Help! I've been recently searching into porcelain and lemon porcelain bantams and was thinking about trying to breed a few, however i cannot find a clear answer :( I have seen so many different ways and contradicting ways i am a bit confused at the whole thing
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Would anybody be able to explain this in simple(ish) terms? I currently have some lavender Dutch bantams, are these any use for producing porcelain? Or are there any other interesting colours that can be produced from lavender?

Any advice or answers much appreciated

Cheers,
Rachel
 
Dutch Bantams, dunno if its possible which is why i asked about any other interesting colours from lavender? Thanks for reply :)
 
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I dont think that color is accepted by Dutch Bantam standards .. get a Porcelain Duccle and mate it to light brown Dutch and then do a F1 x F1 to get some of the Porcelain coloring on somewhat dutch type..
 
They wouldn't be for show like my other hens but just thought they would look pretty around the garden. So there's no way of getting a pure dutch in porcelain?
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you would have to introduce the pattern to the birds first, so that means cross breeding with different breeds, I have seen Mille Fleur Dutch bantams(use google image) so using them and your lavenders could do the trick if you do F1s x F1s(you cross the Mille Fleur Dutch x lavender dutch cross to each other) now are you lavenders self lavender? meaning their entire body are lavender OR are they like lavender light brown dutch?
 
nicalandia said:
Quote: Haha that's where i saw them too, i do like them as well, and my breeder has a few. And self lavenders i think, I've never looked at their genetics in depth but the way my breeder is set up i would expect that their parents are both lavenders. Here's a pic...


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Mille Fleur (Porselein) Dutch Bantams are an approved variety in The Netherlands, as well as Citroen (Cream) Mille Fleur (Citroen Porselein). They have been imported and are bred and shown in the UK and in the US for over 10 years.

Not easy to breed to a Standard. They were made from German Rosecombs in Porselein and Citroen Porselein and also from the Dutch Bantams in Cuckoo, Buff Columbian, Wheaten, for good Dutch Type--in about 1990,ihn Holland. . A flock is gorgeous out on green lawn or pasture! Chicks take up to 2 years to develop their best pattern and colors. Lavender would not be an addition that would be useful and might add the poor feather quality that is inherant with Lavender. Lav/Lav, being a diluter, a pretty, mongrel bantam would be a result. Blue Partridge added will make a Blue Mille Fleur, but not a very attractive color, actually, and not bred in Holland. Lavender Cuckoo has been developed,not very popular in Holland or UK. We do not have Lavender Dutch in the US, except crosses with OEGB.

There are websites to research, for help in your proposed project. The Dutch Bantam Club website has a list of breeders in UK.
Their Genetics is difficult to research, as birds in several breeds, Large Fowl and Bantams, in Mottled, Speckled, Mille fleur, are all related and hard to segregate if ever mixed.. Sigi van Dort has a great book, describing the mixes as making Vegetable Soup. Some colors are predominant in the mixes, according to what is added. BUT YOU CANNOT SEPARATE those veggies out after mixing them in the "soup", so must be happy with what your recipe produces. Nice, pretty pet birds for sure! .
 
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Mille Fleur (Porselein) Dutch Bantams are an approved variety in The Netherlands, as well as Citroen (Cream) Mille Fleur (Citroen Porselein). They have been imported and are bred and shown in the UK and in the US for over 10 years.

Not easy to breed to a Standard. They were made from German Rosecombs in Porselein and Citroen Porselein and also from the Dutch Bantams in Cuckoo, Buff Columbian, Wheaten, for good Dutch Type--in about 1990,ihn Holland. . A flock is gorgeous out on green lawn or pasture! Chicks take up to 2 years to develop their best pattern and colors. Lavender would not be an addition that would be useful and might add the poor feather quality that is inherant with Lavender. Lav/Lav, being a diluter, a pretty, mongrel bantam would be a result. Blue Partridge added will make a Blue Mille Fleur, but not a very attractive color, actually, and not bred in Holland. Lavender Cuckoo has been developed,not very popular in Holland or UK. We do not have Lavender Dutch in the US, except crosses with OEGB.

There are websites to research, for help in your proposed project. The Dutch Bantam Club website has a list of breeders in UK.
Their Genetics is difficult to research, as birds in several breeds, Large Fowl and Bantams, in Mottled, Speckled, Mille fleur, are all related and hard to segregate if ever mixed.. Sigi van Dort has a great book, describing the mixes as making Vegetable Soup. Some colors are predominant in the mixes, according to what is added. BUT YOU CANNOT SEPARATE those veggies out after mixing them in the "soup", so must be happy with what your recipe produces. Nice, pretty pet birds for sure! .
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Thank you :) Very interesting, my 3 lavenders are pure (as far as i know) as i been to my breeders yard where he has shown me his lovely family of lavenders. On my last visit i bought another lavender cockerel and a funny coloured little dutch, he described her as a speckled rose. She's like a dilute buff with lighter blotches through her? He said he got her hatch from a buff hen which had lighter spots and she produced the most lovely little hens...will try and get a photo :p
 

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