My friend and I had a very bad experience. We split an order of 20 chicks, got 1 extra, lost 4 shortly after recieving. They never called or emailed her to let her know that they were on the way. The LF chicks we ordered are smaller then my d'uccle chicks and maybe a 5th of the size of my standard sized chicks that are only a few days older. They seem to lack vigor and haven't grown much at all in their first week. I will stick with hatching eggs from now on, the guys I hatch at home are so much healthier.